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Originally Posted by Natalie
Rich,
I am dealing with it, the rest of you are not
I am dealing with it, the rest of you are not
Originally Posted by Natalie
Originally Posted by A J
It's Simone


AJ, you CUNT, how you doing ?
I thought you were a mod ?
Someone did promote my status but I was stripped of it
Originally Posted by Natalie
Originally Posted by A J
Someone did promote my status but I was stripped of it


Originally Posted by dojj
if he is now posting under the user name nataliethen isn't tat just cicunavigasting the conditions put in by the mods and the lfetime ban??
Id sooner he was on here, passionford is a poorer place technically without his input on the ecu side of things, no one else on here has that specialist knowledge that he does.
I doubt there is any proof he is hacking the site either TBH
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
Ultimately though, bugger all to do with anyone except Stu/IB I guess, its up to them who they want on here, fair or not.
I doubt there is any proof he is hacking the site either TBH
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
Ultimately though, bugger all to do with anyone except Stu/IB I guess, its up to them who they want on here, fair or not.
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Originally Posted by dojj
if he is now posting under the user name nataliethen isn't tat just cicunavigasting the conditions put in by the mods and the lfetime ban??

Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Id sooner he was on here, passionford is a poorer place technically without his input on the ecu side of things, no one else on here has that specialist knowledge that he does.
I doubt there is any proof he is hacking the site either TBH
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
Ultimately though, bugger all to do with anyone except Stu/IB I guess, its up to them who they want on here, fair or not.
I doubt there is any proof he is hacking the site either TBH
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
Ultimately though, bugger all to do with anyone except Stu/IB I guess, its up to them who they want on here, fair or not.
New owners, new board (or whatever happened last night) etc, give the bloke a chance.
He's fucked about etc, this is in revenge (if indeed it was him).
Allowed back on, with a fresh start, might work out ok, and might be a benefit to the site.
Be no need for the hacking if let back on (if indeed it was him).
Lets face it, if you were to hack the site, and want to make it look like it was him, would have behaved exactly how he has (if indeed it has been him).
Benefit of the doubt, give it a go.
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Originally Posted by dojj
if he is now posting under the user name nataliethen isn't tat just cicunavigasting the conditions put in by the mods and the lfetime ban??


Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
IMO, Mike is totally professional when it comes to this situation. He doesn't hate Simon - much like myself, he pities him more than anything.
His current bans would seem to be for multiple usernames, irrespective of his hacking of the site.
This place is far better off without him - no amount of technical knowledge and contribution will make up for the number of members he has personally ripped off, the small businesses that he has jeopardized, and the frustration he has caused members of this site.
How he was not banned sooner is more the surprise. As for his technical knowledge, he has AFF and Stu's forum, so what's the issue?
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
IMO, Mike is totally professional when it comes to this situation. He doesn't hate Simon - much like myself, he pities him more than anything.
His current bans would seem to be for multiple usernames, irrespective of his hacking of the site.
This place is far better off without him - no amount of technical knowledge and contribution will make up for the number of members he has personally ripped off, the small businesses that he has jeopardized, and the frustration he has caused members of this site.
How he was not banned sooner is more the surprise. As for his technical knowledge, he has AFF and Stu's forum, so what's the issue?
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
I think that his shocking business dealings are probably a good reason for him not to be a trader on here, fair enough, I dont see that should be something to stop him talking socially or giving expert technical advice though.
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont really see how he can get fair treatment from the mods, when Mike so clearly hates his guts and lets it influence his decisions.
I think that his shocking business dealings are probably a good reason for him not to be a trader on here, fair enough, I dont see that should be something to stop him talking socially or giving expert technical advice though.
Chip,
If you really believe that, you don't know me very well
. I cannot in anyway influence what the other mods think, and if they all voted to have him back, there is nothing I could or would want to do about it.
Unfortunately, whether you want to believe it or not, ALL the circumstantial evidence points to one person and ONLY one person and due to the hassle caused by Simon, the JOINT decision has been to exclude him permanently from the board.
I actually agree that Simon has a lot to give, but his compulsive lieing and the vindictive actions against this forum has meant that he has caused more trouble than his contribution is worth.
You may argue that it isn't fair as we have no actual proof as such, but also you will know (as you were so kind to point out) that short of a criminal investigation, there is no way to actually ascertain with 100% certainty the true identity of the PF Hacker. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on who you are), the way that Simon has hacked the board and the way certain people have been picked on to be the focus of attention have made it all to easy to identify who the PF Hacker is. The absolutely only other explanation is that someone hates Simon more than anyone else on this board and has gone to great lengths to frame him - even to identifying every single individual who Simon has fallen out with (where some are not publically known), and causing havoc with their accounts.
I must admit that it amazes me even when Simon makes admissions of guilt (where it was often uncertain it was him and people stuck up for him saying that it was UNLIKELY to be him or not proven to be him), that then it is overlooked by these same people as if it didn't happen and want to give him even more chances
.
Oh well C'est La Vi - there's nowt as queer as folk.
If you really believe that, you don't know me very well
Unfortunately, whether you want to believe it or not, ALL the circumstantial evidence points to one person and ONLY one person and due to the hassle caused by Simon, the JOINT decision has been to exclude him permanently from the board.
I actually agree that Simon has a lot to give, but his compulsive lieing and the vindictive actions against this forum has meant that he has caused more trouble than his contribution is worth.
You may argue that it isn't fair as we have no actual proof as such, but also you will know (as you were so kind to point out) that short of a criminal investigation, there is no way to actually ascertain with 100% certainty the true identity of the PF Hacker. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on who you are), the way that Simon has hacked the board and the way certain people have been picked on to be the focus of attention have made it all to easy to identify who the PF Hacker is. The absolutely only other explanation is that someone hates Simon more than anyone else on this board and has gone to great lengths to frame him - even to identifying every single individual who Simon has fallen out with (where some are not publically known), and causing havoc with their accounts.
I must admit that it amazes me even when Simon makes admissions of guilt (where it was often uncertain it was him and people stuck up for him saying that it was UNLIKELY to be him or not proven to be him), that then it is overlooked by these same people as if it didn't happen and want to give him even more chances
. Oh well C'est La Vi - there's nowt as queer as folk.
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Unfortunately, whether you want to believe it or not, ALL the circumstantial evidence points to one person and ONLY one person and due to the hassle caused by Simon, the JOINT decision has been to exclude him permanently from the board.
Well if all the circumstantial evidence points at Simon, and there is utterly no concrete evidence whatsoever, then im sure any complete bunch of numpties would jump to the same decision that they may as well just ban someone on the off chance its him

I fucking hope you never become a judge
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You may argue that it isn't fair as we have no actual proof as such, but also you will know (as you were so kind to point out) that short of a criminal investigation, there is no way to actually ascertain with 100% certainty the true identity of the PF Hacker.
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by C4llyT
Originally Posted by dojj
if he is now posting under the user name nataliethen isn't tat just cicunavigasting the conditions put in by the mods and the lfetime ban??


Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist

Chip so another rule of the site is not to have multple user names? Abuse people etc and Simon has done all those. Fucking typical of this place some memebers want him back so make a fuss about it
If was another member wouldnt give a fuck.
Sums this place up
Sums this place up
Anyone who has seen what a bitter twisted strange individual he has been over the years would obviously point at him, even if there was no named evidence pointing at him.
And he also has the geek-spec knowlege too, of course.
Cant believe some people can be so biast about it...
And he also has the geek-spec knowlege too, of course.
Cant believe some people can be so biast about it...
Originally Posted by Rhys
Chip so another rule of the site is not to have multple user names? Abuse people etc and Simon has done all those. Fucking typical of this place some memebers want him back so make a fuss about it
If was another member wouldnt give a fuck.
Sums this place up
Sums this place up
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Unfortunately, whether you want to believe it or not, ALL the circumstantial evidence points to one person and ONLY one person and due to the hassle caused by Simon, the JOINT decision has been to exclude him permanently from the board.
Well if all the circumstantial evidence points at Simon, and there is utterly no concrete evidence whatsoever, then im sure any complete bunch of numpties would jump to the same decision that they may as well just ban someone on the off chance its him

I fucking hope you never become a judge

This is a car forum - it's hardly like his civil liberties are being infringed!
Out of all the possible people it could be, does it not strike you as exceedingly likely it is probably Simon........ banning aside?
Originally Posted by RichardPON
This is a car forum - it's hardly like his civil liberties are being infringed!
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Out of all the possible people it could be, does it not strike you as exceedingly likely it is probably Simon........ banning aside?
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You may argue that it isn't fair as we have no actual proof as such, but also you will know (as you were so kind to point out) that short of a criminal investigation, there is no way to actually ascertain with 100% certainty the true identity of the PF Hacker.

. I would also be straight on the phone to Stu to seek clarification etc (Simon never did any of these - it's as if he accepted the punishment like only a guilty person would - but then realised that he could manipulate stupid people into believing his innocence
But that's by the by, as I plain just wouldn't do it
. For a start there is no-one on this board that I hold a grudge against, so even if someone wanted to frame me as being the hacker - who would they ban / delete accounts for, to convince everyone it was me
?The only person who vaguely irritates me is you, and ONLY because sometimes you're so insightful, yet others you're either deliberately obtuse - or just plain stupid (I actually vote the former
)
. And if you worried me THAT much, according to Simon - being the power hungry person that I am - I could ban you at will and no-one would be any the wiser that it was me
. However, that's not my style - I would much rather discuss it - even if we agree to disagree and you continue to irritate with your "never wrong" attitude
.Regarding Adrian's second user name, this was inflicted upon him by Simon, as Simon deleted all the mods passwords / email addresses again, so that they couldn't log in. Only the fact that Diva, Jay and NEO were ALREADY logged on to the forum at the time, stopped him from crashing the system, so they saw what was happening and shut him down before he could do any damage and reinstated all the passwords / emails this morning, so that I didn't even realise that something had happened last night until I was told this morning
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