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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
my money would be on it being a much better place,personally i think some of the moderators on here are doing more damage than the critical errors we get all evening!!
Tim you come across as a very bitter man
ive just had a quick read through all 7 pages and seeing as this thread was started by Karl i dont see your need to take this thread way of course for your own benefit
if u dont like the site dont use it
cant say it any other way it's that simple
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Originally Posted by Eagle
just for clarification...
1. Choice of username
A user may choose himself any username providing it doesnt contravene any of the following rules:
It must not be offensive to others.
It must not contain any form of swearing.
It must not contain any form of racism or racist terms.
It must not represent a trade name unless you have paid the traders fee. It must not falsely suggest any affiliation with the webforum or any of its members.
5. Signature and avatar pictures:
We allow the user one signature picture and an avatar of your choice on PassionFord. These must not be suggestive or in any way rude or offensive. However, they must adhere to the following guidelines:
Here are the allowable sizes:
Max siggy physical Size: = 550 x 150
Max siggy Disk size: = 25600bytes (25k)
Max Avatar size: = 105 x 105
Max Avatar Disk size: = 5120bytes (5K)
Max Text size: = All text printed in the signature area must be normal font size.
We do NOT allow any automotive trader information such as names, telephone numbers or direct web links in any signature of members affiliated financially with those companies other than those of registered PassionFord traders as this is unfair to those traders whom pay good money to trade on this webforum and keep it alive financially for us.
The only exception to the Signature rules above is that banner traders are allowed 102400bytes (100K) signatures images.
so .. if you continue to have the nms logo or anything advertising your buisness then you will as you say be unfairly treated by having said patrs removed...
Gine has Motorsport Developments in his sig, how do I know he does not run the company ??
we do NOT allow any automotive trader information such as names, telephone numbers or direct web links in any signature other than those of registered PassionFord traders ???
Anyone with a company logo's having it removed then ?????
I can't put Motorsport Developments in my sig like Ginge's ??
Seriously, it's a joke.
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Originally Posted by DanRSturbo
Originally Posted by Eagle
just for clarification...
1. Choice of username
A user may choose himself any username providing it doesnt contravene any of the following rules:
It must not be offensive to others.
It must not contain any form of swearing.
It must not contain any form of racism or racist terms.
It must not represent a trade name unless you have paid the traders fee. It must not falsely suggest any affiliation with the webforum or any of its members.
5. Signature and avatar pictures:
We allow the user one signature picture and an avatar of your choice on PassionFord. These must not be suggestive or in any way rude or offensive. However, they must adhere to the following guidelines:
Here are the allowable sizes:
Max siggy physical Size: = 550 x 150
Max siggy Disk size: = 25600bytes (25k)
Max Avatar size: = 105 x 105
Max Avatar Disk size: = 5120bytes (5K)
Max Text size: = All text printed in the signature area must be normal font size.
We do NOT allow any automotive trader information such as names, telephone numbers or direct web links in any signature of members affiliated financially with those companies other than those of registered PassionFord traders as this is unfair to those traders whom pay good money to trade on this webforum and keep it alive financially for us.
The only exception to the Signature rules above is that banner traders are allowed 102400bytes (100K) signatures images.
so .. if you continue to have the nms logo or anything advertising your buisness then you will as you say be unfairly treated by having said patrs removed...
Gine has Motorsport Developments in his sig, how do I know he does not run the company ??
we do NOT allow any automotive trader information such as names, telephone numbers or direct web links in any signature other than those of registered PassionFord traders ???
Anyone with a company logo's having it removed then ?????
I can't put Motorsport Developments in my sig like Ginge's ??
Seriously, it's a joke.
do you own motorsport developments ?? do you own a trade related company or are a director or financially profiting from one ...thats the difference..
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thats just pathetic and 7 pages of it
sigs should be allowed or forbidden to carry tuner / brand names / links independant of your relation to it. in my eyes the difference lies in if its REAL advertisement like : sole importer UK, XX Ecu 249 pounds, etc...
and another way of looking at it : some of us (MADYUM, ROD, porkie, myself, Kelv, etc etc) are spending lots of money with tuners. these cars serve them as marketing and they profit from it clearly.
u only create problems with that paragraph, i think u gotta drop the gun and give karl his sig back.
michael
sigs should be allowed or forbidden to carry tuner / brand names / links independant of your relation to it. in my eyes the difference lies in if its REAL advertisement like : sole importer UK, XX Ecu 249 pounds, etc...
and another way of looking at it : some of us (MADYUM, ROD, porkie, myself, Kelv, etc etc) are spending lots of money with tuners. these cars serve them as marketing and they profit from it clearly.
u only create problems with that paragraph, i think u gotta drop the gun and give karl his sig back.
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DaBoy12s...
Yes mate I am Simon (SECS)
*** This is not intended as an advert
Madness isnt it. Well, i enjoyed my evening away from PF.
I can see many didnt.
Some of us feel there is no point in serious contribution after having the
equivalent of an internet mugging on here by the admin...
Did you miss me Petey ??
Sorry, I had to have some sleep .Also, I have a life away from the keyboard.
I can recomend it, try it sometime
Cosworth Rallyesport,
Even I think you have said a bit too much there
Yes mate I am Simon (SECS)
*** This is not intended as an advert
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by aduz
fook sake 7 pages about a fookin siggy
I can see many didnt.
equivalent of an internet mugging on here by the admin...
Originally Posted by Eagle
awwww come on simon .. don't you want to play anymore
Sorry, I had to have some sleep .Also, I have a life away from the keyboard.
I can recomend it, try it sometime
Cosworth Rallyesport,
Even I think you have said a bit too much there
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Some of us feel there is no point in serious contribution after having the
equivalent of an internet mugging on here by the admin...
equivalent of an internet mugging on here by the admin...
For many months now a rule has been in place that doesnt allow a PassionFord member to "Self Promote" a business he is involved in personally. Here is a brief explanation as to how and why that became the case.
Basically, we have, over the last 6 months had an influx of people joining with a business name just touting for work from PF and contributing absolutely nothing of substance... Names like "JK Cars" "KG motors" "Barrys MotoX" "Sids Rs Spares" and a million others like it... (Feel free to check)
Now this turn of events is:
A) Unfair to traders currently paying to trade on here.
B) Creating problems with folk being ripped off by people whom they THINK are genuine PF approved Ford traders.
We decided that one way or another we have now got to put a stop to it completely but didnt know how.
So, after much delibberation it was decided that Trade members affiliated with a business can no longer have a trade name or signature on PF unless they are a registered and paid up trader who paid me personally for his advertismnent by company cheque. No other form of payment is acceptable anymore.
If the moderators spot a new trade name, he is directed to the rules and asked to nominate a new name. perfectly polite, job done, no harm.
Example of how a new member may gain free trade from just his username:
A member from say, Doncaster, joining As "Doncaster car repairs" could obviously gain himself a certain amount of local customers who may look towards him for parts,services and advice, especially if he seemed to know a bit about Fords/RS's etc. this is common sense and i am sure plenty of people off here have made new friends and customers local to them they never previously knew existed.
From now on, unless you are a paid up trader, we wont allow that name for obvious reasons, not least of all the simple fact that he may actually be some penniless clueless twerp in a one bed flat just waiting to get some orders in for parts and then do one with the cash, as HAS HAPPENED before on this very webforum. (Again, feel free to search)
Once a trader has contacted me directly and paid the fee with a business cheque, he can call himself whatever he likes to attract business via the forum and we wish him the best of luck with his new advertising promotion.
I hope this clarifies the situation and i also hope that people can actually see the reasoning behind it. Dont forget, mere users do NOT get to see how many of these peple we have to contact, bin, and involve ourselves with on an almost hourly basis. It was becoming a BIG problem and needed to be addressed before we ended up with 500 traders on here spamming the site with absolute bollox, as HAS happened on this very webforum. (Again, feel free to search)
Finally, with regards username changes, we couldnt decide wether to let the current traders keep their existing names and i voted yes, to let it slide, but the majority said one rule for all was the fairest and most corerct way to proceed and this was upheld, again, for obvious reasons.
How many members are affected and actually CARE? very few.
Many many members changed their name with no drama.
Generally speaking, if you have no business to gain from your username or signature, why exactly would you care if you cannot use it?
Basically, we have, over the last 6 months had an influx of people joining with a business name just touting for work from PF and contributing absolutely nothing of substance... Names like "JK Cars" "KG motors" "Barrys MotoX" "Sids Rs Spares" and a million others like it... (Feel free to check)
Now this turn of events is:
A) Unfair to traders currently paying to trade on here.
B) Creating problems with folk being ripped off by people whom they THINK are genuine PF approved Ford traders.
We decided that one way or another we have now got to put a stop to it completely but didnt know how.
So, after much delibberation it was decided that Trade members affiliated with a business can no longer have a trade name or signature on PF unless they are a registered and paid up trader who paid me personally for his advertismnent by company cheque. No other form of payment is acceptable anymore.
If the moderators spot a new trade name, he is directed to the rules and asked to nominate a new name. perfectly polite, job done, no harm.
Example of how a new member may gain free trade from just his username:
A member from say, Doncaster, joining As "Doncaster car repairs" could obviously gain himself a certain amount of local customers who may look towards him for parts,services and advice, especially if he seemed to know a bit about Fords/RS's etc. this is common sense and i am sure plenty of people off here have made new friends and customers local to them they never previously knew existed.
From now on, unless you are a paid up trader, we wont allow that name for obvious reasons, not least of all the simple fact that he may actually be some penniless clueless twerp in a one bed flat just waiting to get some orders in for parts and then do one with the cash, as HAS HAPPENED before on this very webforum. (Again, feel free to search)
Once a trader has contacted me directly and paid the fee with a business cheque, he can call himself whatever he likes to attract business via the forum and we wish him the best of luck with his new advertising promotion.
I hope this clarifies the situation and i also hope that people can actually see the reasoning behind it. Dont forget, mere users do NOT get to see how many of these peple we have to contact, bin, and involve ourselves with on an almost hourly basis. It was becoming a BIG problem and needed to be addressed before we ended up with 500 traders on here spamming the site with absolute bollox, as HAS happened on this very webforum. (Again, feel free to search)
Finally, with regards username changes, we couldnt decide wether to let the current traders keep their existing names and i voted yes, to let it slide, but the majority said one rule for all was the fairest and most corerct way to proceed and this was upheld, again, for obvious reasons.
How many members are affected and actually CARE? very few.
Many many members changed their name with no drama.
Generally speaking, if you have no business to gain from your username or signature, why exactly would you care if you cannot use it?
And then if you could maybe answer the numerous PM,s, E-Mails and Voicemails i have left you week after week about a matter thats very serious to me, it would be appreciated.
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this used to be a good site now its being fuked up by money and greed
i am no longer trading as zoo motorsport due to being very ill but i still had to change my name i dont have a workshop or a company
i am no longer trading as zoo motorsport due to being very ill but i still had to change my name i dont have a workshop or a company
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Originally Posted by CozzyBrom
this used to be a good site now its being fuked up by money and greed
i am no longer trading as zoo motorsport due to being very ill but i still had to change my name i dont have a workshop or a company
i am no longer trading as zoo motorsport due to being very ill but i still had to change my name i dont have a workshop or a company
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Eagle,
Stop stalking me
Stu is NOT on my so called hit list, and nor is Mike anymore
Stu @ M Developments,
I told you ages ago by email that I wouldnt be corresponding by email/PM
much anymore as I wasnt using this site as much as I did in the past and
infact have stopped using one of my email addresses.
You even replied to that mail wishing me well in my future plans. ???
I did reply to the one voice mail you left me and as you never contacted me again, I assumed the problem you had was sorted.
I will try to call you Monday or you can call me if I forget or
my current email is simon@s8ecu.co.uk
As for the username issues, we have had that conversation already aand I lost
Stop stalking me
Stu is NOT on my so called hit list, and nor is Mike anymore
Stu @ M Developments,
I told you ages ago by email that I wouldnt be corresponding by email/PM
much anymore as I wasnt using this site as much as I did in the past and
infact have stopped using one of my email addresses.
You even replied to that mail wishing me well in my future plans. ???
I did reply to the one voice mail you left me and as you never contacted me again, I assumed the problem you had was sorted.
I will try to call you Monday or you can call me if I forget or
my current email is simon@s8ecu.co.uk
As for the username issues, we have had that conversation already aand I lost
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think this is wrong as people like mark and karl give free advice on here and save people money in the long run not making money for themselves
i agree.
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
Originally Posted by glancy2081
think this is wrong as people like mark and karl give free advice on here and save people money in the long run not making money for themselves
i agree.
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just a theoretical point stu, i can use nms in my sig because i dont profit from the company,wish i did lol but if i had a mate who owns flog it and run kerbside motors,typical con man type, i could put his details in my sig because i dont have anything to do with profiting from said company?its still advertising just not by the company owners
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Originally Posted by lloyd
just a theoretical point stu, i can use nms in my sig because i dont profit from the company,wish i did lol but if i had a mate who owns flog it and run kerbside motors,typical con man type, i could put his details in my sig because i dont have anything to do with profiting from said company?its still advertising just not by the company owners
Happy customers are your best, and cheapest form of advertising.
Traders cant put an Advert on ITV, SKY 1 or Fast Ford For Free because each advertising medium has plenty of catchment customer base and commands a premium for exposure to that customer base on a trade basis, and they cant put one on PF either for the same reason. Simple isnt it.
Next you lot will be demanding that your Tuners get free adverts in Fast Ford and Performance Ford because you have seen stickers of that tuner on feature cars yeah? Its EXACTLY the same thing and i cant wait to see the topic about it. ROLFOL.
I guess nobody will have an argument for that point either? Surely one of you can dig something up and make the debate more interesting?
Anyway, i dont know why i keep arguing the point. Its not really my problem anymore anyway.
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Originally Posted by lloyd
thought so stu, .so the easy answer is give karl his sig back of his 2 own cars,but change the nms lettering for KARL,
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i read one or two pages and have also read the rules but some of it is such shit !!!
if you have 10 users with nms logo in there sig i dont see HOW it makes a difference if one of them just happens to be the trader
if they had a name like ''karl i own NMS pm me'' then i could understand that would be advertising combined with the sig
BUT to a new joiner if they opened a page and karls sig was there they would no know better that he was anything to do with NMS than if i had it in my sig
just my little say
if you have 10 users with nms logo in there sig i dont see HOW it makes a difference if one of them just happens to be the trader
if they had a name like ''karl i own NMS pm me'' then i could understand that would be advertising combined with the sig
BUT to a new joiner if they opened a page and karls sig was there they would no know better that he was anything to do with NMS than if i had it in my sig
just my little say
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look above lloyd has NMS in his sig and his name is lloyd now i dont know him from adam i DO know who karl is but to anyone else on this site that does not they will look no different at karls or lloyds sig
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Stu: i would do this wery simpel then simply say that no one besides traders are allowed to put up adverticing about any company, it`s a simple rule that no one can misunderstand?
A sig with a car like broom with comercials on it are ok, but carl cannot get his sig "NMS" in his? doesent make sense to me?
Then MAD YUM or MAD ADE aso should also make there name to yum and ade instead because this is commercial also?
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
A sig with a car like broom with comercials on it are ok, but carl cannot get his sig "NMS" in his? doesent make sense to me?
Then MAD YUM or MAD ADE aso should also make there name to yum and ade instead because this is commercial also?
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by cossiemanden
....Then MAD YUM or MAD ADE aso should also make there name to yum and ade instead because this is commercial also?
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
I pointed out to the admin that MadRod who openly admits on here to
working for and promoting MAD, doesnt pay the traders fee yet is still
allowed to have that name.
I pointed this out to admin and asked if I could have SECSsimon but was
told I couldnt as this was against the rules.
(I didnt ask for Rods name to be changed)
Rod still has his name, I am not allowed....
A BIG applogy to Rod for using you as an example, its nothing personal.
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Originally Posted by 68332
Originally Posted by cossiemanden
....Then MAD YUM or MAD ADE aso should also make there name to yum and ade instead because this is commercial also?
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
I think u need a straight line, either u ban thia or u dont, dont go in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents
I pointed out to the admin that MadRod who openly admits on here to
working for and promoting MAD, doesnt pay the traders fee yet is still
allowed to have that name.
I pointed this out to admin and asked if I could have SECSsimon but was
told I couldnt as this was against the rules.
(I didnt ask for Rods name to be changed)
Rod still has his name, I am not allowed....
A BIG applogy to Rod for using you as an example, its nothing personal.
Looks a bit like the MAD camp are llowed but no one else is?
Not a dig at rod/yum etc, but to be fair if they are allowed then everybody should also be allowed
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Personally I'd just do away with Signatures altogether apart from paying traders ones. Actually, with all the folk dancing around finding loopholes in the rules I'd actually just pull the plug on the whole bloody site
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Originally Posted by Fiecos Dan
To be fair,
Marks (MAD) user name has been changed.
Marks (MAD) user name has been changed.
Others have NMS in there sig, thats ok also?
Unless ure mark or carl.
Why not do as so many other forums, and ban the sig/name commercials unless u are a trader?
Then the problems would stop?
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Stu @ M Developments,
Ok, SECS wasnt my company name it was Simon Electronic Control Systems.
Look at the secs monitor power up screen and it shows the letters punctuated
with points -------> S.E.C.S.
Ok, SECS wasnt my company name it was Simon Electronic Control Systems.
Look at the secs monitor power up screen and it shows the letters punctuated
with points -------> S.E.C.S.
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I wasnt aware Mark Shead ran a company Called MAD?
I thought it was totally marketed as M.A Developments?
"If" i am wrong, then your right and Rods name will have to go.
I thought it was totally marketed as M.A Developments?
"If" i am wrong, then your right and Rods name will have to go.
Thats correct so all the MAD sigs and names are ok
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JayCos,
Websites do not constute business names in any legal form.
Stu says above MAD is ok as it isnt the proper company name yet is
recognisable by that acronym.
SECS wasnt my proper company name yet am known in the same way.
The ecu wesite was S8ECU.co.uk NOT secs.co.uk.
There isnt a SECS website.
I have only ever traded as my personal name, Simon Electronic Control
Systems or PSI 3 Limited.
(As the tax man will vouch )
So the sugestion of using my real name would actually break trade rules. !
Websites do not constute business names in any legal form.
Stu says above MAD is ok as it isnt the proper company name yet is
recognisable by that acronym.
SECS wasnt my proper company name yet am known in the same way.
The ecu wesite was S8ECU.co.uk NOT secs.co.uk.
There isnt a SECS website.
I have only ever traded as my personal name, Simon Electronic Control
Systems or PSI 3 Limited.
(As the tax man will vouch )
So the sugestion of using my real name would actually break trade rules. !
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Originally Posted by Stoo
Personally I'd just do away with Signatures altogether apart from paying traders ones
mark