it might be a bit late but i'm going to look at a ported cvh head for my xr2 this afternoon , it is has been done by vulcan engine's .
i have heard of them are they any good , and approx what price should i pay .
it comes with a kent cam and anti pump lifter's
thanks all

 

Ask Tony Turbo about Vulcan

 

Yeah and I know roughly what the answer will be......

Come on Tony, lets see your best display of Expletives.

 

hang about here,,,,,,,,,,, wasnt it the bottom end of tonys engine that died

there heads aint been bad have they

 

I think its their workmanship that was in question with Tony's.

 

And their wash their hands approach to sorting the problem

 

christian wasnt it the workmanship on the bottom end that he through a rod though


slagging of the head saying that tonys rod let go is a bit infair imo


same as when people was blaming garys mapping for tonys car letting go the second time, 2 different things


tony was more pissed at there customer service cause they obviously didnt give a shite about there customers and so they lost out big time


there heads im sure have been fine for loads of customers and as such i dont know of a car thats failed due to a ported head,,,,,,,,,, nor there porting being a bad version for cars upto 260bhp

 

no the rod let go and so they said theres no waranty,,,,,,, there aint, stu would be the same as im sure APT would too if they built me a engine and it threw a rod when i was ragging it


now im not saying there engines are any good,,,,,,,,, think they use a strange rod claiming its uprated when it obviously aint


but the guys asking about the head here,,,,,, hes obviously already bought it so dont think its fair scaring him


wasnt the powers 1.9 engine a vulcan engine and there head a vulcan head,,,,,,,,, loads of others seemed to be fine with the heads,,,,,,, just the cracking blocks where a issue but dont andyrst have a 1.9 engine ( i might be wrong though )

 

I think it was the fact they told him they were new rods which they weren't?

 

thanks all i think it will be ok as the engine i'm building is n/a , i'll go and have a look any way as it is just down the road from me .
thanks again all

 

Yeah right, keep dreaming!

Vulcan built my bottom end and used blue- tak to stick the rod caps to the rods. After 3000 miles......... Ka Booooom! Who says I was "ragging it"? Were you there? 6000rpm in 3rd is hardly ragging it.

It is the fact that they couldn't give a toss about the failure and wouldn't do anything about it. Customer service means alot. Seems they were too keen to slap an engine together and take my money then wash their hands of it.


As for the heads..... Well, they are "ok" not great but ok. As we have learned from examining them. But at the end of the day......












But ya know, revenge is sweet

 

Oh, and I bet if you get one of their heads, your exchange one will be "cracked" and you will have to pay Ł60 + VAT surcharge

 

That's right, the rods clearly weren't new. You could see that they were not a set, which led me to believe that they must just have a box of bits from engines they have pulled apart over the years. Nothing is matched.

The rods had very clear 'blue' patches about half-way along which looked really as though they have been heated to straighten them.

Also, in addition to this, I have substantial reason to believe that the Stainless valves that they use in their heads are of low quality. You wouldn't believe how easily they bend. (I have seen 8 bent valves taken out of a head that went onto an engine that never actually ran )

 

do you feel bitter towards them tone

 

I forgot about that one. We marked Tony's head before we sent it off and surprise-surprise he had to pay the surcharge as his was cracked. Funny thing was that the 'new' head had the identical mark that the old one did.

I only speak from experience here, everything I have said is backed up by real events.

 

I've heard enough to never bother with them

 

In the words of the new swear filter.... They are a bunch of spuds!



That is one company I WOULD love to see go under

 

the rod never snapped did it ????


dont get me wrong i dont know the stoey nor do i wanna bring up old stuff, just saying scaring people due to 1 custmomer is unfair

greenlight insurance lied to me to scare me into there policy,,,,,, but you all big em up and claim there the cheepest when there not


do i mention on all posts asking about em ???


dont car let goe after a APT engine was fitted and everyone jumped on that band wago UNTIL tony confirmed it had nothing to do with them !!!


see how easy it is to place blame

not even gonna comment on powers,,,,,,, but there changing and so we must forget,,,,,,,, thats what i think we sould be thinking of OR give proper stories of what happened rather than scare people

 

i'll second that the valves bend quite easily and the stems wear out and wreak the inserts so the head not serviceable

 

Huh? You don't half come out with some shit, mate

What have Greenlight and APT have to do with Vulcan?



If a company has shoddy workmanship and stitch people up, leaving them out of pocket, I do my best to get somewhere with them. However, if they insist on washing their hands of the problem I will do my best to ruin them, or at least warn people off of said company.

It is wrong for people who know nothing of a situation to cast aspersions, but when there is evidence of poor quality work and in some cases, lies the I think there is every reason to let people know. There is no love lost between Vulcan and ourselves and that book is well and truely closed now, so I can say what I like about them.

 

tony i never said you was ragging it OR claiming there a god company

just stating that the guy asked about the head work, in return hes beeing told to avoid like the plauge cause you had a failure

but the powers engine where vulcan engines aswell as the heads too


there customer service is NO DIFFERENT from any other company,,,,,, there all the same in the car game,,,,,, sell the products yet wont warrant a engine

would APT change a engine that i bought off them and it let go,,,,, even if they never new the reason for it,,,,, would they look at it at there expence or just assume that im another person ragging there car and the engine lets go due to not looking after it


no offence to you, just stating as i see it,,,,,,,,,, there heads cant be that bad if they made em for powers back in the day ??

maybe they just got shite when they forgot about there customers and was concentrating on there new houses there buying with the cash


also all big companys have bad experinences,,,,,,,,,,, we have done 6 transit engines last week on new transits under warranty,,,,,,,, now ford aint got much choice to change it cause of there size its not worth arguing


but smaller companys tend to be wank for it cause they dont have the profits to rebuild engines in the name of customer service


the bend rod thing just sounds wrong IF thats the reason why !!!!!!



i personally wouldnt use em but then i dont use most companies as when i call em up there all the fucking same,,,,,,, prob why i drive all the way to blackpool for my car for setting up and all other work is done by me OR supervised by me,,,,,,, just cause when it goes wrong i know its my fault and i aint sounked loads of cash on it


a 250bhp erst is a time bomb at the end of the day,,,,,, ive got a mate whos engine was built with NO torque wrench and the block un seized with coke and new piston rings fitted and slapped back together,,,,, that engine was done and i said it will let go,,,,,,, its been in 3 cars and its till running,,,,,,,,, hes boost control is a pipe with holes drilled in it and hes car aint melted and has never been set up


but anther mate who bought a turbo car thinking he can treat it the same is about to fit his 3rd engine,,,,,,,, 1st one melted 2 pistons, the other was bodged together but ran as i was the one who fitted it and all he had to do was get it set up and checked for the fueling cause he melted the last engine


its still not been done as he seriously dont give a shite even though he claims he does,,,,,,,, when ever theres a problem he tells his mates its all down to me,,,,,, hes engine revs to 3k cause the base idle aint been set,,,, hes never even taken that to be done just ignores that too


my point is most people with cheep performance cars rag em to death and they fail


your the one who looks after his car yet you had one fail but to them your just a kid with a erst

 

tony what about all the engines that powers "built" that was just a vulcan engine but with there surcharge added,,,,,,, whats your feelings on that matter ???


the retail industry is about ripping people off, halfords fucking do it by putting a non stock bike on display for 2 weeks before knocking em down to "half price" when they was never a 200 quid bike

all legal but still shadey,,,,,,,,, think they give a toss ???


my point was you have a very bad experience,,,,,,, you feel bitter and as such use that to slag off the company as you was sold a shite engine,,,,,fair enough tbh, cant argue with that


but theres loads of other vulcan engines that are still going,,,,, most of em crack the blocks first i belive

there heads are not a issue,,,,,,,,, ok the valves seem to be shite but what valve options are there,,,,,,, we all know for conrods we use farndon

who makes valves that are any good ???

untill people stop all the secret squirrel bollox and tell people what they use then we wont keep getting ripped off by companys that use products that work well for there testing but 1 of there customers dont drive like a gimp and wrecks it using it what it was bought for


its a tough call tbh imo


just glad you know have the privlage of being a demo car customer,,,,,,, not all of us have that and have to go by trial and error untill they find someone they can trust for there budget needs

 

C'mon Tone we all know Ginge is a



and why such the long replies?



There, i feel better now and i think i've spoken for the masses

 

and billy your just another person who slagged me off on the net and said fuck all to my face and i had to come home and see the posts about you slagging me off when 1 hour ealier you never said shite


i was talking about the situation,,,,, your the one trying to be billy big bollox again

 

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Just saying what everyone thinks.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And for the record, i didn't know you from Adam when i lent you my trailer, but put trust in you as i'd met you thru here.

So why would i slag you off when i met up with you?

It was only the fact that you were a complete cunt after that i felt the need to 'slag' you off.

Dont abuse peoples trust and you wont get a slagging you numpty.

I should of listened to Lennie.

So on behalf of myself and prob 99% of people on this BB...............

 

no billy you said alot on a post about how i was talking the piss TO WHICH I WASNT !!!!, it was a situation i had no control over !!! BUT i accept it was not fair to you and i DID tell you everything straight and never lied to you at anypoint !!!!


YOU how ever said about me taking the pisson here and yet when i explained everything you never mentioned what you typed on here and what you thought


the FACT i never seen the post should have proved that i GENUINLY wasnt home and infact WAS sorting the situation out

not to mention that i drove a car with no isurance to get it back to you as i got let down and felt bad for taking the piss,,,,,,, which i wasnt


this post is about vulcan,,,,,,,,, i understand tonys issues but just cause they done wnat MOST companies would then i find it hard to understand why everyone should steer clear

tell people the result and let them decide imo

 

 

Wes RS



Look at my face, am i bovvered?

 

Powers only really used Vulcan for a short time for engines, for years all the engines were built 'inhouse' at P.E. that includes all the 1.9 rst's & 2.4 cossies. P.E. stopped building engines because the guy who was the full time builder suffered from a back injury resulting in a big operation etc....
that stopped him from lifting blocks & other heavy engine parts so he was put in the office, he still works there now.
the focus turbo engines were tho only rebuilds P.E. done for a while, but they have just done a 2.5 subaru conversion & have an escort cossie engine underway, hopefully P.E. will be doing rebuilds again within the next few months, its in the pipeline at the moment

 

wes if thats for billy adn me im sure if we ever felt that way ti would have happened by now


we just dont bother with each other and its based on his bad experience started by me when he was kind enough to do me a favour


but shit happens and we cant change the past,,,,,, but we can try to stop the sly digs behind a keyboard and sly comments in a attempt to belittle people

 

yeah its only the internet, just chill

ginge you could say sorry lol

 

how sort a period of time, reason i ask is ive got 2 mates who hate a powers 1,9 block that cracked and they was told they no longer do em but they was vulcan engines build to powers specs,,,,,,,,, then they couldnt give the exact spec and said speak to vulcan as they wanted to know did they use a normal 1.6 block or a 1.9 tall block cvh


so i assumed that there 1.9 popular conversion was just a vuclan engine that the got made to there spec,,,,, guess i was wrong then


how long was a short period of time though ????

 

two words STAY AWAY!!!!!!

I ordered a head for my xr2 early last year then phoned to cancel!!! as my xr2 went up the shoot! The manager wasn't in the shop at the time and the guy on the phone said he would pass the message on..... sure enough didn't hear a thing for about 8 weeks then all of a sudden my bank account is 400 quid lighter where the coonts at vulcan dicided to charge me for the head and said i never cancelled so they billed me for half the price WHY??? no goods recieved and head still on the shelf to sell! wasn't anything special just one of their stage 2 jobby's

And the silly c.u.nt tried to tell me that i didn't cancel and i must prove to them that i did to get my cash back!

YOU PROVE I EVEN MADE THE ORDER TOSS POT! you must have stole my credit card details???

complete and utter cowboys!!! stay away

..... revenge is sweet!!!

 

i did say sorry, i said it all the time it was going on and when i seen him face to face,,,,,, i drove my mates car cause he couldnt be arsed to drop it back off as he was going to work and i wasnt insured to drive it and had 9 points on my licence


all the time i spoken to him he never mentioned he felt like i was taking the piss and he thought i was a prick when he seen me so i came back and got on here to find a "trial by passionford" situation that i felt he could have told me about when he seen me face to face



ive got no issues and i understand why he would feel like that,,,,,, i even told him that at the time,,,,,,,,, he just never said he posted on passionford saying im a tosser blah blah blah

he just took the dolly, i said my sorrys ect made small talk and that was it


now he comes on this post and makes a comment about shut the fuck up and im a attention freek when he never had the bollox to say it before when he had a chance


hope you see my point,,,,,,, but i cant justify what happend and i DO understand why he had the hump,,,,,,, just would have prefered he told me there and then,,,,,,,,, not like im gonna kick off with him for it

someone takes the piss out of me when i help em out and i will tell em straight,,,,,, its how matters get resolved imo

 

thats another example of a company with shite staff just interested it earning cash im affraid

ive had the same with natwest fucking bank,,,, took 4 months to get sorted, they FINALLY diod and they offer us 50 quid in compensation,,,,,,, so i report em to the finacial ombusman and they offer us 350 quid compenstation

they was taking 12 quid from out account for 3 years unlawfully and refused to pay it back cause we should have noticed sooner and so they would only refund half

im still with them though,,,,,,, and there customer service stinks too


but i know that from now on they would have a note to say " follow the rules, this blokes a cunt" on there screen

 

"Secret Squirrel Bollocks" ....... Why should people, or companies who spend many hours and in a lot of case lots of money researching and developing things, then go and give everything away on a Public BB for free?



That is why things are kept secret. I think a lot of people fall in to a trap of thinking that everyone on a BB is their "mate" because they see their name floating about all the time.


And since when has my car been a demo car? I pay for everything that happens to the car, and I don't expect to get things for free at all. Yes, some things are tried out for the first time on my car and others are tried on Mr C's car. We are always learning and some things work, and some things don't. One example I will give you is the ALS on my car is very expiremental because Omex 710 ALS is pretty new and we have never mapped it on an RST before so it is trial and error and the ECU is always progressing.


Please note: Any "questions" above are purely rhetorical... That means no reply is needed

 

tony my reference to the secret bollox is cause then companys CLAIM big things for there engines ect which are actually bollox in a point of factual and they last by luck,,,,,,,,, your vulcan engine for example


as for the demo car i ment as in you have a garage that looks after your car and would NEVER see you badly treated due to the publicity it gets them

vulcan may ahve been the same IF they new how valuble a customer you was gonna be,,,,,,, im not saying that you should tell your trade secrets out,,,,,,,,,,, but dont say "custom cam and rods" when it means there just a tr7 rod and a old 1400cvh cam shaft


its hard to find decent tuners who have the time for the small fish,,,,, most are too busy with the bigger spenders /demo long standing customers to be able to help



hence why when you have a problem you go witha company thats available


as for people on the net aint your mates,,,,,,, thats crap too,,,,,,,, why chat to a person on the net that you would avoid in the street,,,,,,,, thats no different from the guy that chats to ya like a mate i the pub but never wants you about when the" boys" are about


your taking my posts as a dug to you or as if i think you dont pay for stuff on your car

i dont think you get freebies BUT you do get preferential treatment,,,,, as its only natural you do, oranoco gets it at SCC aswell, its not a bad thing

 

1. All I am saying is don't know who people really are. You just think you know them because of who they want you to see they are on a BB


2. I'm not taking it as a dug (?) I assume you mean dig, I am just telling it like it is.


3. Of course APT look after me, we are all mates. Friends first, tuner and customer second. I still have to pay my way, but I do get to stay in the APT Hotel for free