Jim Galbally

ok i got a starting problem thats got worse and worse over the past few weeks and now i'm getting pissed off with it... lol

turn key (imobiliser DISABLED) you hear a click and it sounds like the starter jobs a bit (i'm not 100% tho) and nothing. hold key and after a while the starter goes and she fires up first turn.

sometimes however i get nothing. i try starting it a few times and eventually she'll crank (once it cranks it starts immediately)

also rolling car about in gear seems to make no difference, so i think that eliminated the started getting stuck? (does it?)

so... what bits should i replace i have no problem with buying all new starter, wiring etc. etc. but i cant be arsed to book it into a garage

thebigyin

ignition switch,if no wires etc are loose/corroded etc

thebigyin

if you have a multimeter or a test lamp you will find the prob without much difficulty

Jim Galbally

i dont think its the switch, as i can hear a relay clicking when i goto point3 and i THINK i can hear the starter do something

Graceland

get a test meter out and off the back of the ignition barrel, check the black/red trace wire is getting more than 12 volts when you turn for start jim - easy things first

rsnissan

iTrader: (9)

lose power strap to the starter? or earth is your car has one going to the starter

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

check the crank wire on the starter motor

could of melted if by the exhaust

Jim Galbally

okey will get it looked at. (going for an MOT tomorrow might ask them to take a look)

just looked up a price for a genuine ford starter... how much are factors ones?

Jim Galbally

factors = Ł109 exchange... that's more like it

Graceland

jim - scrapyard, 25 quid, and they give you a warranty against it not working initially too

3drstretch

iTrader: (1)

Sounds to me like solenoid sticking so it new starter time.

Jim Galbally

paul, i'd rather a new one than another 10+ year old one

it is a 2.9 12v manual jobbie i want aint it?

Jim Galbally

ok its got a BRAND NEW starter...

still does it

ive put a multimeter to the ignition barrel when its playing up (which is VERY diffucult with only 2 hands believe me!), and that bit's working fine. so its obviously something playing up between the ignition barrel and the starter motor.

it also SEEMS (i think) to only do it from warm.

it's only once done it to me with a cold start. normally its a case of a go for a drive, pull up at a petrol station then it wont re-start.

JohnnyB

change the INg barrell its nice and easy, ok you will need a new set of keys

Jim Galbally

but the ign barrel works?

xr4x4x24

Change the switch on the back of the ign barrel, thats the problem I had with mine

Jim Galbally

ok well i'll change it anyway.

but ike i said, ive checked it and i seems ok

frog

I'd double check all the wiring, esp as you say it's worse when it gets hot, electricity runs best along cold wiring, maybe one of the leads to the starter motor is perishing and not able to supply the juice it needs (as suggest by Andy earlier).

Oranoco

There's a push fit wire that goes on the starter solenoid. chop the puch fit off and put a ring terminal on and hold it in place with a nut. My push fit connection was mullered and the car had the symptoms you describe.

stevenebm

iTrader: (6)

sounds like the solenoid for the starter.definetlty the starter tho as mines done this.change it and you will solve the problem

Paul_RS

iTrader: (4)

Same thing on my old RST as well. The push fit was on a thin green wire on mine, but it was actually the wire at fault in my case. A mentioned before check all wiring for continuiaty (spelling lol)

Jim Galbally

have you read the thread

it has a BRAND NEW starter on it (inc solenoid)