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Old 14-01-2006, 06:16 PM
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Default New car dilemma - Focus ST or Golf R32

My mate is looking to buy a brand new car, he test drove the Focus ST and the Golf R32 today. He originally wanted the R32 but after the test drive I think he may be swaying in the direction of the Focus.

What one of the two would you choose and why?

Any certain things he should know about either model?

Or would you plump for a different new car altogether? Any suggestions welcome.

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Old 14-01-2006, 06:22 PM
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Tough one that

Golf will hold its money better i think

Focus is a better looking car

Golf will probably be better built

Focus will be cheaper to run

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My money would go on the Focus i think.

He should go into BOTH the dealers and thrash out some shit hot deals.......then go from there
Old 14-01-2006, 06:26 PM
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Golf R32 all day mate

The new Focus ST looks like the new Astra
Old 14-01-2006, 06:29 PM
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but the new astra and the new focus both look good. the new golf R32 looks shit IMO.
Old 14-01-2006, 06:31 PM
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Golf r32,mk5 are we speaking about,a lot dearer than a shabby foci,if he hangs on i know america is getting an r36 which is basicaly an r32 but turboed to 300bhp

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Old 14-01-2006, 06:33 PM
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surprised he cant make up his own mind and has to ask a bunch of strangers

but anyway.. been in a Golf R32 not been in a ST..

cant fault the golf to be honest, and personally Id go VW over ford all day long
Old 14-01-2006, 06:34 PM
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they are two very different prices arn't they


Value for money its has to be a focus...
Old 14-01-2006, 06:55 PM
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r32
Old 14-01-2006, 07:22 PM
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Toughy? my personal opinion out of the two would be the R32, but would prefer the new golf gti turbo, but they say the new vauxhall astra is better than all 3???
Old 14-01-2006, 07:28 PM
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if the latest golf then the Focus,
but if the original R32, the the VW im affraid
Old 14-01-2006, 07:33 PM
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new r32, better by far
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If you wanted to mod the engine, the Focus, by miles.

If you dont, the Golf
Old 14-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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im gonna go against the grain totally and say buy a nissan 350z as theres some good deals about with them now or a mazda MPS,,,,,,,, just dont look at resale prices and be aware that all wheels have a 200 quid surcharge each when replacing em

seen lookers selling a new 350z for 21k today in there sale,,,,,,,,,,,, thats alot of car for that cash imo
Old 14-01-2006, 07:45 PM
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actually if hes paitent there bringing out a RX8 with a turbo engine again now,,,,,,,, thats gotta be a nice around choice ( aint seen the price yet but im sure ill need to be siting down )
Old 14-01-2006, 07:54 PM
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its not going against the grain ginge, its totally going off topic, hence why nobody else mentioned other cars
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well its a good idea though dont you think


its still against the grain too,,,,,,,,,, on another piece of wood


21k for a black 350z with the heated ( and fan assisted ) seats, rwd, bose stereo, looks like sex in metal form and,,,,,,,,,, well i love it

who would buy a ford ST built from a volvo parts bin


see ford are loosing money as even there own staff can see they aint like the old days,,,,,,,,,,,, they dont dominate the market as theres nicer stuf out there for beter prices
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Agreed, for the money niether cars mentioned would be my choice, but its his, so hey.

Originally Posted by b19bal
who would buy a ford ST built from a volvo parts bin
Its built from the volvo parts bin just as much as a 350Z is built from the renault parts bin.

The engine.
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someone mentioned the astra too though


vauxhall are gonna do well i recon this year, they have stolen loads of ford commercial trade with there movano van,,,,,,,,, including BT vans which in all honesty we supply about 15k t 20k a month on panels for BT vans alone,,,,,, thats alot of money that ford have fucked in the long run

the vauxhall will prob out sell the focus too if i dare admit it and may hold there value more too


and cause of this reason im looking for a job at vauxhall as they hardly lost any cash lasy year ( all car companys are stuggling with sales btw )


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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Agreed, for the money niether cars mentioned would be my choice, but its his, so hey.

Originally Posted by b19bal
who would buy a ford ST built from a volvo parts bin
Its built from the volvo parts bin just as much as a 350Z is built from the renault parts bin.

The engine.

cheers you just killed my dream


i never new that but then i never looked into it


rx8 turbo it is then
Old 14-01-2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by G2 FSR
but they say the new vauxhall astra is better than all 3???
Havent heard anybody say that. The Focus beats in in ALL departments except possibly looks.

I think the focus would be hard to beat for VFM and it's superb to drive on a daily basis and I honestly dont think the golf is THAT much better built. The golf GTi is one to consider as well.
Old 14-01-2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
someone mentioned the astra too though


vauxhall are gonna do well i recon this year, they have stolen loads of ford commercial trade with there movano van,,,,,,,,, including BT vans which in all honesty we supply about 15k t 20k a month on panels for BT vans alone,,,,,, thats alot of money that ford have fucked in the long run

the vauxhall will prob out sell the focus too if i dare admit it and may hold there value more too


and cause of this reason im looking for a job at vauxhall as they hardly lost any cash lasy year ( all car companys are stuggling with sales btw )
my companys just gone back to transits cos movanos are fookin toss, by far the most unreliable vans we've ever run


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cant comment o reliability BUT i can say the brakes are better in the movanos and also they are selling better hence the new transit coming out


my point was that the transit is what people call a van,,,,,,,, but the larger companys are going vauxhall,,,,,,,, not saying transits are crap as i drive em everyday just that ford are loosing there market they had such a strong grip of for years
Old 14-01-2006, 09:25 PM
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R32
Old 14-01-2006, 09:33 PM
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Depends on what he wants.

The FRS is very much an enthusiasts car. Being that it was designed to be taken off the road and put straight onto a track and the engine has be designed to cope with tuning too.

As a day to day road car, its livable, but hardly refined, especially on some bumpy roads it gets really uncomfortable to drive.

The R32 is a good car IMO (raced one couple of nights back and its not slow either) and from what I hear is a much more livable day to day car.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.

Out of the alternatives I'd go for the 350Z personally as I think it's a fantastic looking car, but my mate's really after a hatchback.

I think he'll probably go for the ST in black.
Old 16-01-2006, 12:40 PM
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R32 for me over the ST
Old 16-01-2006, 02:23 PM
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ST anyday!
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Originally Posted by b19bal
someone mentioned the astra too though


vauxhall are gonna do well i recon this year, they have stolen loads of ford commercial trade with there movano van,,,,,,,,, including BT vans which in all honesty we supply about 15k t 20k a month on panels for BT vans alone,,,,,, thats alot of money that ford have fucked in the long run

the vauxhall will prob out sell the focus too if i dare admit it and may hold there value more too


and cause of this reason im looking for a job at vauxhall as they hardly lost any cash lasy year ( all car companys are stuggling with sales btw )


You're after a job at Vauxhall cause you like the new Astra more than the Focus and cause they got BT to buy some vans?

Strange thing to base your career choices on but each to their own.

Before you go jumping ship tho mate, you need to remember that General Motors are in massive trouble, possibly worse so than Ford. General Motors own Vauxhall, hence Vauxhall is in trouble.

You'd just be swapping one set of surroundings for another, while being in a pretty similar situation.
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
R32 for me over the ST
Well there's a surprise, seeing as you've never had a good word to say about the ST
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Well he bought neither in the end!

Instead he got an 04 plate M3 cabriolet! Not quite the same as an R32 or ST but a bloody nice car, and fast too!
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for resale the Golf, built quality Ford is very good now I would say better than the Golf. For tuning the ST.


I have driven booth as I work for a newspaper and I nick the press cars.


My choice would be the Golf as I cannot stand FWD, but the St goes very well
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are your eyelids made of scrotum!?


R32 allll day long!
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yes Dave
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But are the two priced totally different?
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ST - although the six pot noise of the R32 is hard to resist.
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was out in new focus st yesterday absolutly awsome r32 looks nice but when you see the new st up close its awsome with massive rercaros and that well built volvo 2.5 turbo engine and 6 speed box

st all the way


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R32 anyday of the week. I had one in work for 4 days and I must say I was fucking pissed off at how good it is! I'm not a golf fan by any means but I did like the look of it (was a gun metal one), although I think I prefer the ASBO in Orange, and the inside was PROPER plush, miles ahead of the new Focus. As for the drive alot faster than I wanted it to be and the handling/grip/brakes were fantastic. DSG box is good too, feels like an auto around town because it's soo smooth, which I didn't really like, but open her up and it's fantastic! Also sounded the fucking bollocks!!
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