Versus_Creations

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Yes at last we now have 3 piece shatfs for the MTX75 Gearbox to be able to run in a ERST with a S1 Antiroll bar.

So you will have no tourque steer due to the equal outer length shafts.
Better handeling due to the S1 roll bar
A better gearbox all round for ratios, speed etc..



Add this to a big engine build and you have a foooking great setup

kjc300

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I seem to remember the mondeo's use a 3 piece shaft affair - have you modded the kit off that???

Versus_Creations

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Yes mate, parts of.

Project ST

Can the ERST driveshafts plug into the MTX diff or are the sizes different?

DazC

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And what if you don't want to run an MTX75 box? Not many people run the MTX if any at all on here....

Oranoco

What about the LSD and are the ratios suitable to for this application?

Versus_Creations

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All the parts needed for the conversion are modded HIGHLY to be able to use with our setup.

i.e Shafts, Hubs, Brackets, extra shaft and bearings,

The MTX75 box IMO is better then any 15 year old box that is gonna be in a RS.. Or even a rebuilt one!

If you dont want to run the MTX box or the 3 piece shaft...........DONT

Its not made for any other box..........................................YET

Versus_Creations

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The ratios are very very good for this application.

This is a 2.0L ZVH (building) with the MTX75 box with only 2 shafts

Oranoco

Wasn't picking holes in anything mate

I can understand your reasons for using the MTX75. Just wondered about the gear spread and how suitable it was for this particular application.

DazC

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What has the age of the box got to do with anything?

In what way is it better than say a box from Bernie with a Quaife ATB new main shaft with larger bearings and shot peened gearing?

Versus_Creations

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I cant find the actual ratios etc.... im sure that Bernie would have the figures.

Versus_Creations

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Erm....ABOUT £500 difference at a guess. And the fact you dont need to do all the above to a MTX box as it is good enough to start with.

The age of the box has loads to do with it! I dont want a 15 year old box that has been pushed for power all its life by loads of different owners etc...

At the end of the day you could go and spend loads of money having a box built, but why bother if you can go the better way for less money.

turbo man

quaife do a 3 piece shaft for a std rst box anyway, wots ur price? i'll find quaifes

DazC

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Well my spanking freshly built box is still 15 years old...does that mean if fooked from day 1 then? Surely you mean a box which has never been uprated or rebuilt......plus I wouldn't trust an MTX75 box with the projected power figure of my engine anyway......my box is that spec because I chose it to be that spec (Quaife diff), the only uprated bit about it is the larger bearings....the gears are standard but have just been shot peened while they where out....

markk

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now come on , you know theres one being used around your power level daz

sunny

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hhmmmmm Interesting topic.

DazC

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My power level is zreo once again Mark....it's back in bits!!

The nearest MTX box that could be considered would be out of a Focus RS but not some shonky Mk 5 E'scrote box...

Ryan

bttt for any more info on the box, as i will need to be deciding on a box for my car

markk

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only differance is that its got a quaife lsd as std !!


whats up with it ?

DazC

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So they never changed anything apart from the diff? My question is, when the old RST box weak point is the reconditioners main shaft bodge, with this point addressed, is it really weaker than an MTX?

The manifold was blowing at the turbo flange. When I took it off and looked at it with a steel rule edge it wasn't flat so needs machining falt again.....not serious I know.

RSrussell

And thats why you are renowned for your expertise in automotive mechanics

Versus_Creations

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Kooool i didnt know that!
Been looking for info etc. but cant find much?

We have no price at this time for the conversion, as it is still getting all the machining and fabrication costs worked out. The price will also change depending on fitment as the Zetec engine has the fittings to start with on the back of the block, where as the ERST/FRST needs a convertor plate.

The conversion parts will inclued everything apart from the gearbox itself.

The gearbox will be available seperatly as sometimes customers can source these for very sensible money without myself having to hunt for a good one and remove etc.

bunglescott

ok the mtx75 is a good box but which one you using the focus one ??
all the others dont have a lsd
scott

Rick

The MTX75 replaced the IB5 didnt it? Id like to know why - is it smoother/stronger? What box is the 6 speed ST170? I'm guessing they're not as strong as that why they not in Focus RS.

sunny

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Hi Rick, the ST170 uses a Getrac 6 speed close ratio box. It has dual layshafts / 2 diff ratio's and is quite an amazing bit of kit. I have more info on it somewhere as I had been in contact with Getrac UK a little while back to see if they could help me with my new transmission plans to cope with the extra power of my new engine. I'll dig up the email shortly.

Thanks - Sunny.

AndyRST

The ST170 box is a GETRAG 6 speed.

Think you can find a bit more on them here : http://www.getrag-ford.de/ehtm/prod1.htm

Rick

Cheers Sunny. Can it take good power? Guess it wont be cheap

sunny

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You can pick the boxes up 2nd hand for not too much money however regarding it's ability to take good power...a) it depends on how much power and b) imo there is only one proper way to find out.

Thanks - Sunny.

Rick

true true I want one

Ryan

bttt for more info

im quite intreaged now as to what MTX75 box to use.

AndyRST

Do i read that right that a ST170 box is rated to 295 lbft ?

Ryan

bttt