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Old 16-07-2004, 04:25 PM
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hey everyone, just a quick one before I finish work (wahey )

which way do EBC brakes go, should the grooves go towards the front ovf the car or towards the back?

I cant remember which way round mine are at the mo, but last time my car was in at well Lane Turbo's they said they were fitted wrong

they said they're different to normal discs?

is this true?

cheeRS lads

dave
Old 16-07-2004, 04:33 PM
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anyone? pls, need to sort this in morning if they're wrong?
Old 16-07-2004, 04:50 PM
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Old 16-07-2004, 05:32 PM
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the outer edge needs to be facing the bottom of the bin and the inside edge needs to be facing the lid of the bin
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Remember that this example is for AP discs. They all have different opinions on groove orientation.

Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
the outer edge needs to be facing the bottom of the bin and the inside edge needs to be facing the lid of the bin
Old 16-07-2004, 06:41 PM
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EBC discs have a part number stamped on the outer edge.
The turbo groove ones have L/R part numbers - so I guess they're stamped L/R.
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cheers peeps, i'll have a scan at the discs, see if theres anything distingushing them.

sorry jim dont get that mate.
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I think that Jim is implying EBC discs are shite along with horrible Green Stuff pads that only warp your discs anyway!

Why Well Lane Turbo's??
Soooooooooo many horror stories!!!
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james, Dont get me started on well Lane turbos man

I too have many fookin horror stories, they're wank,

dont worry i dont use em any more mate


any one else know then which way they meant to be fitted
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I think that Jim is implying EBC discs are shite along with horrible Green Stuff pads that only warp your discs anyway!
ive got ebc discs and mintex 1444 pads on my erst and there shite were worse with the green stuff pads, anyone recommend some good disc/pad combo's? i need 283mm discs and pads for willwood 4 pot calipers, my discs have the grooves going out towards the back of the car, pretty sure there are stamped L and R but havent taken em off for ages

cheers kev
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the Mintex 1144 are a damn good pad, it's the cr@p discs people use with them!!

I think if the grooves point forwards that the intention is for the groove to cut INTO the pad in aid for it to stop better??

The other alternative if for the grooves to point backwards so they just pass by in theory...

I would suggest phoning a well known and reputable disc/brake supplier to make you a set of discs you require, but use NEW pads with them...
Old 18-07-2004, 04:00 PM
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I've had a a bad experience with EBC stuff on the front of mine, i had both the discs and the green pads. They warped to fuck and will never use ever again, i changed to red dot 6 grooves and mintex 1144's, best move i made, they're much better and they havent warped Personally i wouldn't fit them, get your money back if you can.
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ebc reccomend red stuff for the front of a sierra greens are not up to the job at all, They overheat and warp the disks, I think ebc is not necicerily the problem but perhaps the advice to fit greenstuff pads to a big heavy and powerfull car.
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I think if the grooves point forwards that the intention is for the groove to cut INTO the pad in aid for it to stop better??
isnt the idea of the groove to clean out the pad and prevent glazing surely if it cutss in it will kill the breakes in no time?
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Originally Posted by trevCOSS
ebc reccomend red stuff for the front of a sierra greens are not up to the job at all, They overheat and warp the disks, I think ebc is not necicerily the problem but perhaps the advice to fit greenstuff pads to a big heavy and powerfull car.
Maybe, but when you've had a bad experience with one piece of equipment it puts you off in future. Was never informed of this when i bought them but it was a while ago and probably wasn't common knowledge then.
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This is how i have them and they work fine, this being the drivers side

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Originally Posted by trevCOSS
I think if the grooves point forwards that the intention is for the groove to cut INTO the pad in aid for it to stop better??
isnt the idea of the groove to clean out the pad and prevent glazing surely if it cutss in it will kill the breakes in no time?
Would you rather stop better or have nice and shiny brakes??

I tried this after having the way you are suggesting, was loads better and would never go back on it

Black Stuff EBC pads work a treat, but are like an OE equivilent of a Ford pad anyway

Red Stuff being recommended!!
That's a racing pad isn't it?
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On any high performance car (ie. Sierra Cosworth / Impreza / Evo) EBC recommend Redstuff pads, as someone has already stated, Green is not up to the job. Greenstuff is fine for your Saxo's etc.

I have the new Redstuff "Ceramic" on my 2WD Cosworth and it is a fantastic material. All the Jap Boys are raving about this material at the moment.
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Dave,
if they are just grooved, and the vent ribs inside the disc are straight, it doesn't matter which way the grooves face - just personal preference and cosmetic appeal
The significant bit about Gareth's AP picture is the curved vent ribs - these need to be fitted on the right side for correct rotation, so the air is drawn from the middle of the disc to the outside
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nice one Richm, I can understand that, yes they were on the wrong way then, they were the curved ones, swapped em over yesterday

cheers
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