trackdays what pads ?
22-12-2005, 11:07 PM
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trackdays what pads ?
i have not got the brake setup i'm saving for as yet 330+ , so what pads will fade less for the track as the std ones aren't even good enough for the road 
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23-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
23-12-2005, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
23-12-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
23-12-2005, 03:57 PM
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I once tried Mintex 115 in anger and they were great even when they burned with flames filling the wheels they still braked well. Only problem was stopping was not an option because I would burn the car 
So I needed some cooldown driving
DS2500 I have now are better though I think, they would burn even when braking from 5th gear into 1st gear chicane build from tires reapetedly.
So I needed some cooldown driving DS2500 I have now are better though I think, they would burn even when braking from 5th gear into 1st gear chicane build from tires reapetedly.
23-12-2005, 04:04 PM
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Lynne - what a sweeping statement.... Mintex are crap?
They're plenty good enough for faster cars than Andy's, and used in many racing series across the world.
You can't rubbish a whole brand of brake pad, just because you got the compound selection wrong!
They're plenty good enough for faster cars than Andy's, and used in many racing series across the world.
You can't rubbish a whole brand of brake pad, just because you got the compound selection wrong!
23-12-2005, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Lynne - what a sweeping statement.... Mintex are crap?
They're plenty good enough for faster cars than Andy's, and used in many racing series across the world.
You can't rubbish a whole brand of brake pad, just because you got the compound selection wrong!
They're plenty good enough for faster cars than Andy's, and used in many racing series across the world.
You can't rubbish a whole brand of brake pad, just because you got the compound selection wrong!
23-12-2005, 11:12 PM
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I know quite a lot of peopel who liked those 144's and 1155's. Some needed to swich into 1166's though. It all matters on how you use brakes, how you use car, what espec you are running and if your brake setup has enough cooling capacity and thermal capacity.
23-12-2005, 11:50 PM
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Lynne the cracking of the 1144's is the pad being outside the maxium heat operating range. The pad will still grip but it starts to break up. I have had the same cracks with 1144's on my RST but then 1144's are a fast road pad and not a track day pad, and certainly not a high bhp track day pad.
I'll be using DS2500's next and see how i get on wtih them
I'll be using DS2500's next and see how i get on wtih them
24-12-2005, 02:09 AM
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1177 mintex pads are awesome
they do eat your disks away but thats what they are designed to do...... grab the metal
i doubt you'll do better for a trackday pad...
DONT drive on the road with these unless you can drive with your left foot on the brake pedal most of the time because they need lots of heat for them to work to thier maximum........ left them in my rs after a trackday..... BIG MISTAKE .... they are great from cold dont get me wrong, but these pads like nothing more than HEAT meaning they are exceptional for trackday/race cars...
use them, you wont go back
price is justified 120% IMO
they do eat your disks away but thats what they are designed to do...... grab the metal
i doubt you'll do better for a trackday pad...
DONT drive on the road with these unless you can drive with your left foot on the brake pedal most of the time because they need lots of heat for them to work to thier maximum........ left them in my rs after a trackday..... BIG MISTAKE
.... they are great from cold dont get me wrong, but these pads like nothing more than HEAT meaning they are exceptional for trackday/race cars...use them, you wont go back
price is justified 120% IMO
24-12-2005, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
24-12-2005, 02:24 AM
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they do eat your disks away but thats what they are designed to do...... grab the metal
When out at night and they are up to temperature you can see hot sparks flying off them.I'd guess they have saved me from writing off the car on about 6 occasions now
24-12-2005, 02:39 AM
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you can probably add me to that list too Tony 
they are awesome, end of
i still have a set of yours here too m8, must get them back to you
you doing the NW Stages this time m8?
im all healed and ready to navvy again if you need me
still got me number i hope
they are awesome, end of
i still have a set of yours here too m8, must get them back to you
you doing the NW Stages this time m8?
im all healed and ready to navvy again if you need me
still got me number i hope
24-12-2005, 02:57 AM
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you doing the NW Stages this time m8?
Missed driving on it last year because you wasn't fit.... 
Now we have lost Leyland as a venue I can't get enthusiastic over it. But its the local one so suppose it should be supported
Still got your numbers
24-12-2005, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wildheart
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
Originally Posted by chip-3door
although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
24-12-2005, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wildheart
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
Originally Posted by chip-3door
although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
which you now have
so mintex pads are crap in your opinion because andy killed them but then proved that it was not really the pads fault it was the driving style you were asking them to cope with by then saying he has bigger discs
and i would guess a higher heat range pad
24-12-2005, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by wildheart
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
Originally Posted by chip-3door
although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
which you now have
so mintex pads are crap in your opinion because andy killed them but then proved that it was not really the pads fault it was the driving style you were asking them to cope with by then saying he has bigger discs
and i would guess a higher heat range pad
Oh dear... someone else who is assuming.... NO - he already had AP 6 pots with 355mm disks at the time. What don't you understand about this being based on my experience of using Mintex as well on track, not only Andy's!! Jesus, aren't opinions allowed anymore FFS? 
So I reiterate that IMO they are crap as track pads as well as being extremely noisy too.
24-12-2005, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by sbd16v
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by wildheart
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by gurnE
I run 1155 fronts and 1144 rears, no complaints
When I replaced the Mintex on my car they were cracked to fook.
Looks like they certainly did their job, even with all that heat they got exposed to they continued gripping until they ripped to shit rather than fade by the looks of it?
Good advert for them that is, although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
Originally Posted by chip-3door
although looks like he needs bigger disks or not to slow down as much for corners
which you now have
so mintex pads are crap in your opinion because andy killed them but then proved that it was not really the pads fault it was the driving style you were asking them to cope with by then saying he has bigger discs
and i would guess a higher heat range pad
Oh dear... someone else who is assuming.... NO - he already had AP 6 pots with 355mm disks at the time. What don't you understand about this being based on my experience of using Mintex as well on track, not only Andy's!! Jesus, aren't opinions allowed anymore FFS? So I reiterate that IMO they are crap as track pads as well as being extremely noisy too.yep every one is alowed an opinion
its just above it was not an opinion it was a staitment
Originally Posted by Redkop
Mintex are just crap pads and they faded fast too. That doesn't happen with the Ferodo DS2500s and they do the job properly.
24-12-2005, 10:34 AM
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...and which were you using too Redkop ? 44's or 55's maybe ? Both are just road type pads IMHO
Most of the competition cars I know of (in the northwest) - even the big heavy cars choose Mintex over all of the other brands. They do a lot more than 2 compounds
Most of the competition cars I know of (in the northwest) - even the big heavy cars choose Mintex over all of the other brands. They do a lot more than 2 compounds
24-12-2005, 10:47 AM
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...and which were you using too Redkop ? 44's or 55's maybe ? Both are just road type pads IMHO
Most of the competition cars I know of (in the northwest) - even the big heavy cars choose Mintex over all of the other brands. They do a lot more than 2 compounds
Most of the competition cars I know of (in the northwest) - even the big heavy cars choose Mintex over all of the other brands. They do a lot more than 2 compounds
add some fast road pads and i am not surprised they die
24-12-2005, 11:12 AM
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TBH I can perfectly understand what she's saying.
I watched a mate go through a set of brand new 'EBC Greenstuff' pads in 2 stages on a rally (thats about 12 miles lol)
That has put me off for life, anything to do with 'EBC ...stuff' no matter what the colour.
I know they (EBC) do different friction materials and higher spec pads but I won't even consider them now due to that.
If you have found something your happy with then stick with it
leecavturbo - its a learning curve mate, about how you drive and what products you have etc. If there was a definative 'best' list for everything we would all know about it by now and all be using the same things.
If it were me (and I have, and still do this) get 3 sets of pads and book a track day. Use that time to evaluate all 3 pads under the same conditions. You will come out with a winner or at least one your happy with. Life would be so much simpler if we could just read about perfect parts - fit them and forget. Unfortunatly it dosn't work like that.
I watched a mate go through a set of brand new 'EBC Greenstuff' pads in 2 stages on a rally (thats about 12 miles lol)
That has put me off for life, anything to do with 'EBC ...stuff' no matter what the colour.
I know they (EBC) do different friction materials and higher spec pads but I won't even consider them now due to that.
If you have found something your happy with then stick with it
leecavturbo - its a learning curve mate, about how you drive and what products you have etc. If there was a definative 'best' list for everything we would all know about it by now and all be using the same things.
If it were me (and I have, and still do this) get 3 sets of pads and book a track day. Use that time to evaluate all 3 pads under the same conditions. You will come out with a winner or at least one your happy with. Life would be so much simpler if we could just read about perfect parts - fit them and forget. Unfortunatly it dosn't work like that.
24-12-2005, 11:35 AM
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Not tried Mintex myself, but use Ferodo DS3000 on track and have used 2500s which are a bit more disc friendly for road use.
3000s have exceptional bite
(1000ish kg car OEM calipers, 280mm disk )
Agree with comments on EBC **** stuff
Put a set of yellows in for a day at Snett, the backing plates parted from the material before lunch
Shite!
Heard a lot of good comments on Pagid blue RS series pads but they are nearly double the price of Ferodos!
3000s have exceptional bite
(1000ish kg car OEM calipers, 280mm disk )
Agree with comments on EBC **** stuff
Put a set of yellows in for a day at Snett, the backing plates parted from the material before lunch
Shite!
Heard a lot of good comments on Pagid blue RS series pads but they are nearly double the price of Ferodos!
24-12-2005, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
They do a lot more than 2 compounds
24-12-2005, 12:31 PM
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The one thing to bear in mind, if you get the pads too harsh they will muller your disks in no time at all and if you are using the car on the road as well then bear in mind the racing type pads take longer to get the heat into them and can be noisy.
I deal with the biggest supplier of Ferrodo in the country, ok, I only buy Classic Ford stuff off him but he recommened the Ferrodo Racing Pads as a decent road / track day pad.
I also deal with EBC, again only on the classic ford stuff, but they recommended their Ceramic Red Stuff pads for track days, good stopping power, dont munch your disks and dont take a week to warm up so ok on the road.
JUST MY OPINION WHICH IS ONLY BASED ON FIRST HAND INFORMATION GOT FROM PEOPLE THAT KNOW
I deal with the biggest supplier of Ferrodo in the country, ok, I only buy Classic Ford stuff off him but he recommened the Ferrodo Racing Pads as a decent road / track day pad.
I also deal with EBC, again only on the classic ford stuff, but they recommended their Ceramic Red Stuff pads for track days, good stopping power, dont munch your disks and dont take a week to warm up so ok on the road.
JUST MY OPINION WHICH IS ONLY BASED ON FIRST HAND INFORMATION GOT FROM PEOPLE THAT KNOW