Ginge !

i CAN NOT for the fucking life of me remove my fucking bottom pully from my engine, ive EVEN dented my fucking MINT tennis cabrio wing in the fucking process

need some advice as its fucking tight on there, seriously tight

does WD40 or anything better REALLY work, its fucking tight though and ive got a huge 3/4 ins breaker bar and thats bending and the engines just moving all over the place, last attempt the engine slipped to the side and put a fucking huges dent in the wing

SERIOUS advice needed

croppy

can u get air supply 2 it windy gun the bastard off
prob only way if that tight mate

Ginge !

cant do that and its REALLY on tight, ive got a breaker bar the length of my leg and all ive been doing is moving the engine about, does WD40 really work or am i just fucked

Rick

puller? id drop the engine out.

Ginge !

its no where near the car, its on a stand and its not fucking budging the only car its near is a escort cabrio and its just fucked my fucking paint job and orginal wing

any otherway to get the cam belt off, the pully for the dizzy cant come off either as the bottom pully is in the way

Rick

defo need a puller then!

Cowboi

oh ginge, ginge ginge.

have u done what i did with ur cossie one? used a bit of rope to keep the pully still?

best way to do it is to shock it.
big hammer, solid bar and give it a few wacks.
any movement is good movement, so even if u can do it up a bit it will break the seal it has and then it should undo.

the wd40 will help if u can get it into the thread. but sounds like its pretty tight so it might not work to great tbh.

stick it in gear as well, it will give it some resistance to help u undo it.

Cowboi

is the sprocket for the cam belt and the pully all one unit?

after spending hours getting my bolt out of my crack i found out that the outer pully actually un bolts from the sprocket and when u take the tension off the belt u can take it off the sprocket. all with out removing the bastard bolt!


to do mine i used a propane portable blow tourch, bar and club hammer. in the end it went

croppy

stick the car in gear and foot on the brake to keep pulley still to undo
then a puller to remove pulley

RichardPON

Ginge - I had exactly the same with mine.

I tried "shocking" it to, but ended up breaking the bastard

In the end, I used a puller I had, and it eventually came off............... four hours later

rsnissan

iTrader: (9)

heat or a puller get on msn

MoonDustSaph

What can't you get out? the centre crank pulley retaining bolt or the pulley itself?

Cowboi

i was just thinking the same thing.

St3V3_C

RichardPON, just been looking for this...

B19 - this post goes a bit OT, but there is a bit of good advice too.

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137478

Are we talking the bolt or the pulley

seveneigths

Take your intercooler and radiator out and then you can use a air gun and then use pullars, thats the easiest way imo

Thats the way i was shown, i hope that help mate

kevandalice

how can it be put in gear if its not in the car?

Ginge !

i got a puller,,,,,,, thats not the issue YET though, i cant get the poxy twatting bolt off

ivetried shocking, shouting spitting and even calling its mum a slag, IT AINT COMMING OFF , anymore force and im gonna sheer the bolt


btw the car is in gear ,,,,,,,, just thats 3 miles from where the engine is and so i dont feel that helping much

Ginge !

mate this is a normal garage not the ferrari pit lane

the intercooler is in the bathroom and the rad is in my little girls room but i dont have air tools

cheers though

its the poxy bolt btw

MoonDustSaph

Without being able to apply heat then you are back to wacking it with a hammer. You need to some how prevent the crank turning at the same time tho. What state of build is the engine in?

PAUL V

if the fly wheel is on put a old screw driver though 1 of the gear box mounting bolts and jam the flywheel up.

Ginge !

this engine has no cams in it and ive also fractured my missus wrist when the first 24 mil socket snapped and i hit her wrist with the hammer

hence the late reply, i finished work at 5 to start this

RS2000CUSTOM

Disclaimer !

Try this at your peril !

BUT IT WORKS FOR ME

Get a good quality ring spanner or solid bar (not a ratchet handle) on crank bolt - make sure it if on bolt 100%

Put a piece of wood between spanner/bar and chassis rail to stop the spanner turning or put spanner/bar against floor

Disconnect coil - Remove spark plugs

Get a trusted friend to "flick" ignition key on and off

The torque a starter motor produces is usually enough to do the job

Ensure you have spanner/bar trapped the right way to undo as well

Watch fingers eyes etc for flying spanners though

Ginge !

theres no way tpo to that, ive checked seriously looked and also the hammer is out the question, missus wants it done big time though now

croppy

if the engines out how the fook can he damage the wing pmsl laughing @ kev

PAUL V

Done that my self dave, but the engine is not in the car

scruffythefirst

Get two scaffold tubes at least 4 feet long, use one to hold the engine stand still and slide the other right over the breaker bar, so it wont bend then slowly increase the pressure but do it gently otherwise you'll slip.

Ginge !

FUCK THAT !!!!!

ive just totally resprayed my engine bay and even if the engine was in i would NEVER try that

MoonDustSaph

How about fitting 2 bolts in the flywheel where the clutch mounts lay a bar through so that it pitches on the ground and then fit a socket on the front bolt and hit it sharply with a copper hammer on your breaker bar.

Or as suggested jam a screwdriver in the starter ring, but thats more a 2 man job.

kevandalice

err... because he hit the wing of another car parked nearby.

if you read the posts it tells you

Ginge !

the wing i dented is from my pride and joy that i love soo much ive stored in the garage the cossie engine was located in there temp and beside the car of my dreams

RS2000CUSTOM

Missed that bit - lol lol

Take it to a truck tyre fitting bay and let them use a truck wheel nut air gun

Even if crank spins those air guns generate a shit load of torque - should do it !

foreigneRS

bolt needs shocking ginge.

get yourself a Ł20 12V electrical wheel nut gun and it'll have it open in no time.

i also saw a mental thing in a tool catalogue the other day that you put into a socket and you twat a bar thing with a hammer and it converts it into a rotational shock. have no idea where i saw it, or what it was called though

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

if the engines in bits then put a wooden hammer shaft on the crank to lock it in place, get your wretched skinney arse outta the way & get someone with a bit of beef on the bar & someone with a bit more beef holding the engine!!!
failing this, fire the block in a car, take it to work & get someone to airgun the bolt off

Ginge !

fook me you dont do things by halfs

i live in central london so there no truck bays near here, infact all the arches are clothes shops now



is there another way to change the cambelt leaving it on as i supose good news is its not comming off

Cowboi

ginge, read carefully.

get some rope, start at the bottom of the pully, rap cloackwise round the pully 1 and 1/2 turns so that it goes all the way round and back over the begining of the rope. then it comes off the top of the pully to the right.

find a bracket or something solid on that side of the engine.

now when u turn the bolt anticlockwise the rope should tighten up on itself. this will stop the pully from moving and therefore the crank.
now u should be able to put ur socket on it and apply as much pressure as needed till it goes.
now i did this and snapped the rope twice, then i got another bit or rope and the blow tourch, and that time it went.

shocking it like that will help more then as well as the rope will increase the amount of force from the hammer get transfered to the bolt.
if u know what i mean.

rsnissan

iTrader: (9)

do you mean an impact driver ?

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

Ginge, you cab slip the belt off & slip the new one in, but its good knowing that your struggling

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

i had one of them when i was young, they work though

Ginge !

engines not stripped, just this fucking bolt

im seriously loosing the will to live as ive not only hurt the one i love ive also clubed my missus with a hammer


ive got a huge fucking breaker bar, it aint budgeing, i need to foind a way to lock the flywheel really tight i think and find the best version of WD40 they ever made


UNLESS theres anotehr way to change the cam belt and not take the pull off

RS2000CUSTOM

Carefully cut new belt across its width

Feed onto bottom crank pulley

Sew belt back together

Problem solved

I wouldnt run engine though ! - lol lol

Keep at it though it will undo in the end