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Old 11-07-2004, 08:34 PM
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Wouldn't mind going to see it as I always wanted to buy it, even at 14 thinking it was special due to its colour & the write up in the programme stating it was one of 5 built.

Can't believe it has got that rough though
Old 11-07-2004, 08:34 PM
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I also recall reading a feature in fast ford a few years back about the princess Di car being the only factory painted Black series 1.
Old 11-07-2004, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PAUL JC
The 1 and only black one has `SWARTZ` on the slam panel

yup that was quoted in the feature
Old 11-07-2004, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PAUL JC
The 1 and only black one has `SWARTZ` on the slam panel
Yup which is one Jeff Windsors (Princess Di's old one) as it means Black in German
Old 11-07-2004, 08:36 PM
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Correct
Old 11-07-2004, 08:42 PM
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escortmad,it dosent look like it did 10 years ago ,but if you really want to see it,i could find out where he's keeping it,but it will just make you sad
Old 11-07-2004, 08:45 PM
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Looks nothing like it did 10 years ago, it was all shiny & nice when I last saw it!!

Shame that such a rare car has been left to get into that state
Old 11-07-2004, 08:51 PM
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just think what it would be worth if he looked after it,the thing is he knew it was rare but just let it rot.
Old 11-07-2004, 08:56 PM
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Mint it would be worth at least £6k, true that he knew how rare it was, I saw it at Wheels day in 1993 down Plymouth way & it was written in the programme how rare it was, trouble is I can't find the programme now!
Old 11-07-2004, 09:01 PM
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Its a shame any of them are allowed to get in this state, let alone the rare as rocking horse shit versions...

I remember Princess Di's car, it sort of kickstarted my affair with RS Turbos

If I remember rightly when she had it it came with the 5 slat grille rather than the 3 slat S1 grille? (although it has been changed now to the proper 3 slat version)

I wonder how much the S1 from Cats Eyes would be worth now if it was still alive...

Anyone got any pics of Princess Di's Series 1?
Old 11-07-2004, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by James Raby
Where's the proper graphics for the side of the cart then? I bet it's a mk3 Escort maybe xr3, but NOT S1
look a bit closer mate they are right the side shot shows there correct

2 mins walking round it would tell u if its the real thing.if it is then the buyers got as very rare car.i would say he would be looking at closer to 5-6k in doing it to a good standard which it should be if it is a genuine car,looks in a very poor state good luck to who ever buys it
Old 11-07-2004, 09:09 PM
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Princess Di's did have the 5 slat grille so it wouldn't stand out from any other car
This was changed when Ford took it back.

Looking at the back of a book today about Escorts in competition it showed that the Datapost car also ran with a 5 slat grille

Thought the Catseyes one was still around?
Old 11-07-2004, 09:49 PM
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The car on eBay IS a genuine black series 1, had it confirmed as I've know the vehicle for a number of years
Old 11-07-2004, 10:02 PM
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some of the datapost cars where 16i's which would explain the grill..

Dont forget the grey one...

As for the story behind that everyone should know it as it was a regular at shows for a while...
Old 11-07-2004, 10:09 PM
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Is it definitely the "one" then?

I can't believe that it is!!! It looks like an absolute bag of shite!!!
Old 11-07-2004, 10:21 PM
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nah its not THE ONE

But it is one of them....

The princess di car still goes to shows.. last year it was int he pits at national day
Old 11-07-2004, 10:33 PM
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strike a light, what a piece of SHIT
Old 11-07-2004, 10:42 PM
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush

Princess Di's S1 had no graphics - was it a fake? No....
It did have graphics



Old 11-07-2004, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RST_lee
The argument -

If you had only 1 of 2 Black Series 1's Would you allow it to reach this stage.

I fooking would not what A shite box.

Mine would be sitting in a warm garage. However the idea of a Series 1 in another colour than white has always apeallled to me like the red one in either FF or PF.
And thats the subject closed there.. SPOT ON!
Old 11-07-2004, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul
Fuck that looks ace.. imagine what she could of done to it with her money lol..
Old 11-07-2004, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zoso11
Originally Posted by Paul
Fuck that looks ace.. imagine ..
I wonder what she got upto in the back seat?
Old 11-07-2004, 11:12 PM
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That car really is a rusty shitter. Needs scrapping IMO.
Old 11-07-2004, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zoso11
Originally Posted by RST_lee
The argument -

If you had only 1 of 2 Black Series 1's Would you allow it to reach this stage.

I fooking would not what A shite box.

Mine would be sitting in a warm garage. However the idea of a Series 1 in another colour than white has always apeallled to me like the red one in either FF or PF.
And thats the subject closed there.. SPOT ON!
some people just can't read

he was going to restore it, its a 20 year old car for christ sake.
would it be worth more in mint condition or scabby old 20year old condition?

He has just run out of funds/interest
Old 12-07-2004, 08:14 AM
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some people are just too stoned to understand that most of these cars need restoring and that's not cheap,so not everyone can do the work so paying a garage over £50 an hour is out of the question .
Old 12-07-2004, 08:22 AM
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At the end of the day the higher the bid the more serious the buyer is,and that would more than likely mean another rare S1 would be saved and restored to a high standard...which can only be a good thing!
Old 12-07-2004, 09:19 AM
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I know someone who works for fords, who gets me spare parts and stuff (he works in the technical department dealing with ECU's).

He confirmed to me that there was only 1 GENUINE S1 ever made by ford in black and that was for Diana. i asked him some time ago (about 6 years ago i think when Fast Ford featured the ONLY Black S1 ever made).

Any other black, red, blue, yellow whatever are fake/non original, confirmed.
Old 12-07-2004, 10:16 AM
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Im not being rude but how does it prove there was only 1 genuine non white s1 because your m8 works at Fords????I read once Jeremy Walton who is one of the most clued up Ford journalist there is and worked closely with Ford in them days, saying even he doesn't know how many non white S1's from the factory there are!!...infact Ford still maintain all were white!!We know this not to be true,but what is the basis of a non white S1 being an original?A few were painted by Fords as new but retained the white id plate...so are these not genuine?...I know black one of Di's had the correct ID and i was led to believe some of the red ones had athe correct ID. Im sure even dianas S1 was a white one to start with and then it was striped painted and a new ID tag with swartz was fitted to the front.At the end of the day due to Fords terrible record keeping we we never really know how many were genuine Non white cars were built,i belive this black one on Ebay was black from new and has a rare Dagenham id plate on it....so id say this was original enough and worth saving.This debate about how many non white genune S1's will go on forever!!
Old 12-07-2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1
I also recall reading a feature in fast ford a few years back about the princess Di car being the only factory painted Black series 1.
yeah ive got it at home its the feature about the very dark green s1 with porsche brakes on it
Old 12-07-2004, 06:20 PM
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i dont care how much of an ethusiast u r! paying more than 2 grand for that is a joke! it is a peice of shit. Get a white one for like 1,500 then spray it black cause thats as near to an original black most people will ever get. Better than restoring that shitbox i mean look at it people. i am really trying to see the benefits here believe me i am. But well i can't cause its a heap of shit. That is only my point of view but the more of these that are restored the better as they are getting rare but i would not touch that.
Old 12-07-2004, 08:43 PM
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When that car was on the show scene 11 years ago it was mint, unfortunately by the looks of it, it was garaged & other things took over & now it's in that state.

Princess Di's (Now owned by Jeff Windsor) was sprayed black directly onto the primer, hence being quoted as being the only factory black S1.

The special order cars were ALL sprayed white & then stripped by Ford & resprayed in the desired colour on top of the white (They did exactly the same thing with the mk2 RS2000) (Can a mod make that quote a sticky at the top of the page cos this has to be the most asked question on Series 1s! )

I certainly wouldn't scrap it, it's too rare to scrap (One of only 5 black ones produced by Ford) & needs to go to a proper enthusiast who has the time & money to restore it back to its former glory.

I always said that I wanted this car, but unfortunately it's too expensive & too far gone for me to undertake.
Old 12-07-2004, 11:13 PM
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I heard of a black S1 someone ahd built in Aberdeen, mayube this is the said one, its not far in Edinburgh
Old 13-07-2004, 12:28 AM
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im sorry but rare or not that wants throwing in the fookin bin
Old 13-07-2004, 04:50 PM
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Car has now been removed & sold elsewhere, hope it's gone to an enthusaist who will restore it back to its former glory
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