deer culling
19-11-2005, 08:10 PM
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deer culling
whats all that about then 
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
19-11-2005, 08:17 PM
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19-11-2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by b19bal
cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
anyways those killed will be killed humanely, or as much as close to that as they can, and they will only be killed where there is a more than usual number of them
19-11-2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by b19bal
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
And all old, post menopausal women that get to the till in a shop THEN decide to change everything they've bought, engaging the help of some numpty teenager to run around finding things for them.
19-11-2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by Paddy
Originally Posted by b19bal
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
And all old, post menopausal women that get to the till in a shop THEN decide to change everything they've bought, engaging the help of some numpty teenager to run around finding things for them.
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19-11-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by Rhys
Nah lets start with people who say things like that
Feel the love buddy, I was messin'
19-11-2005, 09:17 PM
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sorry but if you was a extra child in a house hold would you prefer to live in another country or be killed humainly
infact i dont care weather i was chopped into 200000 bits whilst kept alive or shot in the head as im still dead, the only crime commited is ive got too many brothers
save the whale.............. when theres too many should we then kill em
infact i dont care weather i was chopped into 200000 bits whilst kept alive or shot in the head as im still dead, the only crime commited is ive got too many brothers
save the whale.............. when theres too many should we then kill em
19-11-2005, 11:04 PM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by Matt J
Originally Posted by b19bal
or am i just thinking silly
i was born in prob the most inbred vilage in the country, hell most of my old neighbours had webbed feet
just cause i happen to live in central london dont mean i was born here
your more of a southern than i am as i was actually born ina bumkin place called west auckland, its fooked up shite hole of a place that when you visit on the way there the first thing to smell is horse shite
maybe im just not a fan of killing animals for ANY reason
20-11-2005, 12:20 AM
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It has to be said that you spout some crap ginge!! You have without a doubt just seen some program on Sky/Tv that has gifted you all the infomation you have quoted, with little or no genuine argument to back it up
"we have a nice looking animal" Stop watching bambi
Surely if people who are better educated, more specialised in the field, more experienced and so on, choose that this species of animal need cullling, perhaps we need to trust there judgement?
Plus is this a generic cull of deer or specific to one species? (sp) or didnt tv mention that?
"we have a nice looking animal" Stop watching bambi
Surely if people who are better educated, more specialised in the field, more experienced and so on, choose that this species of animal need cullling, perhaps we need to trust there judgement?
Plus is this a generic cull of deer or specific to one species? (sp) or didnt tv mention that?
20-11-2005, 12:24 AM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by b19bal
whats all that about then
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
20-11-2005, 08:59 AM
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i was out shooting pheasants all yesterday and i enjoyed it,
i'm no axe murderer but i paid for it and all the pheasants had been bred for was to be shot and we brought home 3 brace of them cause they taste fooking nice!
we saw a deer there and it was nice to see but there was ONLY 1 start seeing more than 10 or whatever they need sorting out,
like rabbits in the 70's *i think* the government virtually gave out shotgun cartridges for free to sort out the number of those, because of this we have such a healthy countryside and not an over-ridden problem with rabbits.
So culling animals is tried and tested mate, and it works by the looks of things
i'm no axe murderer but i paid for it and all the pheasants had been bred for was to be shot and we brought home 3 brace of them cause they taste fooking nice!
we saw a deer there and it was nice to see but there was ONLY 1 start seeing more than 10 or whatever they need sorting out,
like rabbits in the 70's *i think* the government virtually gave out shotgun cartridges for free to sort out the number of those, because of this we have such a healthy countryside and not an over-ridden problem with rabbits.
So culling animals is tried and tested mate, and it works by the looks of things
20-11-2005, 09:05 AM
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Think bal is getting some stick here for what he believes in!!
I am also against killing most things, unless it is necessary.
About the deer, why are they being culled?? Is it because they are living near roads or mainly just breeding too much??
People who make 'fun' out of killing wild animals should take up a hobby
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There are so many things I can say about this matter but cant be bothered now.
BTW I know a few gamekeepers and the deer are not always killed humanely!!
I am also against killing most things, unless it is necessary.
About the deer, why are they being culled?? Is it because they are living near roads or mainly just breeding too much??
People who make 'fun' out of killing wild animals should take up a hobby
.There are so many things I can say about this matter but cant be bothered now.
BTW I know a few gamekeepers and the deer are not always killed humanely!!
20-11-2005, 09:05 AM
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I cull deer and have done for a number of years I have also just returned from a cull hunt in Africa,I aslo shoot foxes rabbits and all manner of game.The problem is people do not understand what its all about and try and class it as something its not,If you dont understand read or ask someone
20-11-2005, 09:05 AM
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We are surrounded by woods and common. Its nice to walk through and see the deers! Sometimes you see one sometimes you don't theres not many! Sad to think people would kill them 
Have to be care full driving down to our road though as sometimes they tend to run out in the road at night Had to use the brakes hard a few times
Have to be care full driving down to our road though as sometimes they tend to run out in the road at night Had to use the brakes hard a few times
20-11-2005, 09:36 AM
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There very beautiful indeed and so harmless.
Can't beleive when we was out walking Alex actually got scared and thought one was going to charge us There far more scared of us lol It only run towards us for a few seconds then darted to the side lol! 90
Can't beleive when we was out walking Alex actually got scared and thought one was going to charge us
There far more scared of us lol It only run towards us for a few seconds then darted to the side lol! 90
20-11-2005, 09:42 AM
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culling is neccesary due to having no natural predators anymore.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
20-11-2005, 09:46 AM
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Re: deer culling
Originally Posted by RC4
Originally Posted by b19bal
whats all that about then
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
we have a nice looking animal and theres now too many so we just kill em
theres too many people in this country ffs, lets start culling them
8000 to be killed in 2 years, cant we just move em to places where theres a shortage of em elsewhere in the world or am i just thinking silly
next where gonna be issuing em condoms or even castrating em
whats so wild about animals we control the amounts of, thats a zoo aint it
serious PM me where your from and if daddy lets you out after hes finished giving you one up the arse we will see whos the gutless cock
the forum warriors are out tonight
now pete YOU are a perfect person to talk to about this as you choose HUNTING as a sport, so in effect you agree with this as its within your interest would that be right
its a bit like driving fast argument on motorways to me, i wont belive its dangerous in the wrong hands but then im not a fan of blood sports unless its fair on both partys ( boxing for example)
now just cause i dont like the idea of US stating theres too many of anything so we MUST kill them, yet we let our own citys get over run with people and we use all of our resources in the interest of making money
the fox hunting is a prime example, alot of people dont like it, i personally hate pidgeons but why aint then shooting them in the citys
seaguls at the seaside, theres fooking hundreds of them and they get on my tits, kill them
a animal thats just doing as we did and evolving due to over breeding i honestly dont see why WE have a right to cull them
dont get me wrong im not a soya milk drinking person, i understand killing for food and i also understand that before we all grew up watching bambi or winnie the pooh that are great grandparents whould go out and kill animals for food, hell my grandfather used to keep pigs ect and breed them for food all them years ago, i got told about all the ways they used to kill them too from my uncle when he was a lad
but in all honesty i hate the idea and with the amount of places we have in the world then surely we could just relocate or look as ways to control the breeding rather than kill was my point, i know killing is easier and cheeper but seems a waste imo and if for of desise happend and then all was to be wiped out would that not be ironic that we was killing them before instead of thinking of ways to let them run society
ill admit i dont even know what they eat but the whole killing thing just seems imorale, could be the city boy in me or just me having kids that makes me think it
anyway rant over
and rc4, serious on my offer mate, lets see how big your bollox are, dont bother replying to this in another 5year old fit, just make it to the beds meet tommorow and we will see, hell bring your mum and ill let her play with my arse whilst you i shoot my load down you
20-11-2005, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian M
culling is neccesary due to having no natural predators anymore.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when Paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when Paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
ok thats a fair point and one that i was thinking of but thats also why i sugested other alternatives
8000 deer in 2 years is alot and a waste too
20-11-2005, 09:57 AM
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its still a shame though
but that argument does have a point
oh and for the record i dont like watching lions eat em either and so i dont watch "wildlife on 1"
but that argument does have a point
oh and for the record i dont like watching lions eat em either and so i dont watch "wildlife on 1"
20-11-2005, 10:11 AM
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why dont you read the link I have posted,you may them understand what culling is all about,nothing is wated unless the animal is of poor condition or has a disease it wont enter the food chain,the culling od deer has strict guide lines and there is also seasons when certain speices can or cannot be shot,its not just a free for all,The number of deer in theis country is strictly monitered in England and Scotland read the link it may surprize you whay a bit if knowlage will do.Yes i shoot for sport and ir can cost a lot of money this money is put back into the estates and gives someone a living also deer produces money for the tourist industry as many ober sea hunters visit the UK every year to hunt deer.
You have little knowlage of this sport/culling so your posting are un justfied,please read a little to help you understand.
Originally Posted by Ian M
culling is neccesary due to having no natural predators anymore.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when Paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
when people who have no understanding of these things get involved the results can be catastrophic for the animals.
one particular case was when Paul macarteney bought a wood in devon then fenced it in to keep the deer in so that the stag hounds couldnt hunt them. the end result of that little escapade was the deer bred and litteraly ate themselves out of house and home. this resulted in all the deer being emaciated and quite a lot died of starvation. for centuries there had been a sustainable deer population in that area all fit and healthy. but because macarteney is anti hunt he caused unnecasary suffering on animals because he is ignorant of life in the country.
You have little knowlage of this sport/culling so your posting are un justfied,please read a little to help you understand.
20-11-2005, 10:27 AM
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pete what i was saying is there not another way 
that site is cruel as it explains about culling then its show small cute baby deer (joke btw)
ianm made a fair point on it, not ment to offend but taking advice from a tree hugger is just the same but the other argument, may not me totaly inbiased
that site is cruel as it explains about culling then its show small cute baby deer
(joke btw)ianm made a fair point on it, not ment to offend but taking advice from a tree hugger is just the same but the other argument, may not me totaly inbiased
20-11-2005, 10:27 AM
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pete, i am aware of the neccesity to cull and i,me all in favour of it. i have been involved in my own chosen sports of shooting, lamping with lurchers, coursing etc for 35 years. altough i havent done any stalking, i am aware of the pros for doing so.
20-11-2005, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian M
pete, i am aware of the neccesity to cull and i,me all in favour of it. i have been involved in my own chosen sports of shooting, lamping with lurchers, coursing etc for 35 years. altough i havent done any stalking, i am aware of the pros for doing so.
20-11-2005, 10:36 AM
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pete what i was saying is there not another way
that site is cruel as it explains about culling then its show small cute baby deer (joke btw)
ianm made a fair point on it, not ment to offend but taking advice from a tree hugger is just the same but the other argument, may not me totaly inbiased
that site is cruel as it explains about culling then its show small cute baby deer
(joke btw)ianm made a fair point on it, not ment to offend but taking advice from a tree hugger is just the same but the other argument, may not me totaly inbiased
20-11-2005, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
Deers are just livestock and the numbers need to be controlled.
Same with rabbits, foxes, crows etc etc.
Besides, venison tastes good
Same with rabbits, foxes, crows etc etc.
Besides, venison tastes good
There a fucking menace and a danger on the roads! One wrecked my car 3 days befrore last christmas!
20-11-2005, 10:44 AM
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There a fucking menace and a danger on the roads! One wrecked my car 3 days befrore last christmas!
my point was that they should have right of way, hell horses do
damage to cars aint a justified reason to kill deer as otherwise i will openly start horse hunting as there FAR more of a danger
20-11-2005, 10:56 AM
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pete as i said i never ment to offend and that site has lots of info on it and the last post also explained alot too
20-11-2005, 11:08 AM
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in all honesty i do understand the reasons more now 
still think it would be nice to avoid it if we could but then supose that aint as easy and the cheepest option is to allow people to pay to cull
still a shame , but then as they say life is cruel
still think it would be nice to avoid it if we could but then supose that aint as easy and the cheepest option is to allow people to pay to cull
still a shame
, but then as they say life is cruel
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Originally Posted by b19bal
There a fucking menace and a danger on the roads! One wrecked my car 3 days befrore last christmas!
my point was that they should have right of way, hell horses do
damage to cars aint a justified reason to kill deer as otherwise i will openly start horse hunting as there FAR more of a danger
I've hit loads of the fuckers cos there fucking stupid and run straight out infront of cars!
Sorry mate, but there is NO way you can tell me Horses are more of a danger than Deer, people who ride horses should be in control, if not get em off the fucking road!
20-11-2005, 11:17 AM
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yeah but its wildlife though, its a bit like complaining about smokey pubs or you car gets covered in bird shite when you park under a tree
animals should ALWAS have right of way if theres no one controling em, ould you blame a child that ran out infront of your car
they are not aware of cars ect so dont think its far to blame them, YOU are aware of deer so drive carful IMO
animals should ALWAS have right of way if theres no one controling em, ould you blame a child that ran out infront of your car
they are not aware of cars ect so dont think its far to blame them, YOU are aware of deer so drive carful IMO