WELL DONE MARK & ROD
07-11-2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
congrats to mark 
why didnt rod drive his own car though ?
why didnt rod drive his own car though ?
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07-11-2005, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by cossiecrew
congrats to mark
why didnt rod drive his own car though ?
why didnt rod drive his own car though ?
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07-11-2005, 09:48 PM
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Rod - Tff and that guy looked like pussys compared to Mark - with all the gear they had on! - did you do your run like Mark - with no seat belt even!!! 
07-11-2005, 09:53 PM
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Rod - Tff and that guy looked like pussys compared to Mark - with all the gear they had on! - did you do your run like Mark - with no seat belt even!!!
forgot that as well.Mark
07-11-2005, 09:59 PM
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Mark - forgeting the helmet and putting the harness on is just mental!! I am laughing cause you will look back in years to come and think hardcore!! 
& You have a PM about my car, cheers!
I am laughing cause you will look back in years to come and think hardcore!! & You have a PM about my car, cheers!
07-11-2005, 10:00 PM
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Brings some respect back to the cossie badge.... people forget what they are capable of, inspiring to say the least I had an extra pint down the pub after watching that 
I had an extra pint down the pub after watching that
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07-11-2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tgsday
Rod - Tff and that guy looked like pussys compared to Mark - with all the gear they had on! - did you do your run like Mark - with no seat belt even!!!
07-11-2005, 10:12 PM
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Rod, Total respect! - Those speeds in the dry are insane, let alone the wet- with just a seat belt on, the fastest I have done is aprox 155ish in my old S70R T5 and that was fast..... So I take my hat off to you and Mark! 
08-11-2005, 07:19 AM
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Well done guys top work
Bet there arn't many cars in the world that can do 200mph and take 4 people and their luggage to the airport
Bet there arn't many cars in the world that can do 200mph and take 4 people and their luggage to the airport
08-11-2005, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wimwerf
Originally Posted by SPADGE
Well done guys top work
Bet there arn't many cars in the world that can do 200mph and take 4 people and their luggage to the airport
Bet there arn't many cars in the world that can do 200mph and take 4 people and their luggage to the airport
Many cars have a 200mph top speed, but remember, this is usually on a closed, banked loop where they can build speed up over a long time/distance.
What I still find truly shocking about rod's car, is that he drives it there (did you see how dirty it was
), runs up to 200mph a couple of times, and drives home, where most arrive on a trailer, and go home on a trailer.Just looked at the figures for the Veyron, 0-186mph in 16.7, Rod's, 0-150 in 13s in the wet
You guys (rod and mark) really are an inspiration - well done again
08-11-2005, 07:45 AM
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As my Jen said (obviously more objective than me ), she couldn't believe they devoted so much time to abject failure and then so little time to 100% success, job done. Obviously smacks of sour grapes that basically a two man team could achieve what the entire Fifth Gear team / budget / planning could not .
They could have achieved their aim with the Lotus, if they had picked the right people to do the project IMO. Complete farce regarding the Lotus and totally mis-managed by people who obviously haven't got a clue. Should have spent the money building it right once instead of the three times it has now had to be rebuilt. Also fancy turning up to the event with a fucked clutch - egg on face or what .
Must have been EXTREMELY embarrassing for all involved that a Ford Sierra turned up did several runs (all faster than the Lotus and one run with a 60 year old driving 
). Just makes you realise how few people there are out there that can actually do good job of managing and completing such a project.
What they should have done with the engine:
Decompressed it (as they run 8:1 compression), fitted bigger turbos (not reconditioned standard items
), suitable injectors and mapped it live on a runway to check for det. Given that it is a 3.5 litre V8, it should have EASILY been able to achieve 650bhp without the aid of NOS. I believe Bernie also offered his services to them to sort out the gearbox, so if this had been beefed up from the start, it would have saved them a fortune in labour (along with the fortune it would have cost to repair the engine three times if it had been done properly as well ).
Also, it runs a Citreon / Renault gearbox and drive shafts (not mMetro ones ) that are rated to no more than 300lbft, hence why the standard car is boost limited in first and second (and it only runs 6-7psi as standard, as it runs no intercoolers and this light pressure set up normally ). The GT car they built for racing with only 450bhp (using similar methods to the one on Fifth gear last night) used to twist the drive shafts like wrought iron gatework, hence why Quaife have a proper gearbox listed for it (Ł10k though ).
), she couldn't believe they devoted so much time to abject failure and then so little time to 100% success, job done. Obviously smacks of sour grapes that basically a two man team could achieve what the entire Fifth Gear team / budget / planning could not .They could have achieved their aim with the Lotus, if they had picked the right people to do the project IMO. Complete farce regarding the Lotus and totally mis-managed by people who obviously haven't got a clue. Should have spent the money building it right once instead of the three times it has now had to be rebuilt
. Also fancy turning up to the event with a fucked clutch - egg on face or what .Must have been EXTREMELY embarrassing for all involved that a Ford Sierra turned up did several runs (all faster than the Lotus and one run with a 60 year old driving
). Just makes you realise how few people there are out there that can actually do good job of managing and completing such a project.What they should have done with the engine:
Decompressed it (as they run 8:1 compression), fitted bigger turbos (not reconditioned standard items
), suitable injectors and mapped it live on a runway to check for det. Given that it is a 3.5 litre V8, it should have EASILY been able to achieve 650bhp without the aid of NOS. I believe Bernie also offered his services to them to sort out the gearbox, so if this had been beefed up from the start, it would have saved them a fortune in labour (along with the fortune it would have cost to repair the engine three times if it had been done properly as well ).Also, it runs a Citreon / Renault gearbox and drive shafts (not mMetro ones
) that are rated to no more than 300lbft, hence why the standard car is boost limited in first and second (and it only runs 6-7psi as standard, as it runs no intercoolers and this light pressure set up normally ). The GT car they built for racing with only 450bhp (using similar methods to the one on Fifth gear last night) used to twist the drive shafts like wrought iron gatework, hence why Quaife have a proper gearbox listed for it (Ł10k though ).
to the cardigan guy 
08-11-2005, 08:24 AM
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Well done guys!!!!It seems I'm not the only one (i.e. Mike) who thinks a) 5th Gear know nothing at all about engines and how they work ('ooh what's 'NOS' like!') b) planned their car VERY badly and c) gave little time to the achievment of Rod and Mark , which did seems like sour grapes! Just shows I suppose how little all these journo's actually know, or even appreciate, about the efforts/achievements of tuners/modifiers.
A new series of show has been born......we had Family Guy and American Dad and now 'Cardigan Guy'
Well done Mark/Rod
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08-11-2005, 08:27 AM
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Ditto what Mike said.
I think Tiff, Vicky and Jason learnt a lesson during this project. To build a reliable 200 MPH car takes alot more than just chucking money at a fast car to make it faster.
Sierra and Corolla several years development, Lotus 8 months mostly being rebuilt
PMSL at the clutch failing aswell. With the amount of work done on that car you would have thought they would changed the clutch as a matter of course.....
Well done again to Mark and Rod.
I think Tiff, Vicky and Jason learnt a lesson during this project. To build a reliable 200 MPH car takes alot more than just chucking money at a fast car to make it faster.
Sierra and Corolla several years development, Lotus 8 months mostly being rebuilt
PMSL at the clutch failing aswell. With the amount of work done on that car you would have thought they would changed the clutch as a matter of course.....
Well done again to Mark and Rod.
08-11-2005, 08:37 AM
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Well done guys.
Perhaps PF should start bombarding Fifth Gear with mail demanding that they come back and do a proper feature on the Cossie.
After all they devoted 10 minutes to those Lax Bowels Chav motors so why not do a feature showing what is required to make a genuine 200mph car.
fifthgear@five.tv
Perhaps PF should start bombarding Fifth Gear with mail demanding that they come back and do a proper feature on the Cossie.
After all they devoted 10 minutes to those Lax Bowels Chav motors so why not do a feature showing what is required to make a genuine 200mph car.
fifthgear@five.tv
