any pectel monitor experts
05-11-2005, 01:33 PM
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switch one On for peak reading only Off for cont readings
switch two On for logging to start on power up
switch three On for ecu air modification (off normally)
switch four,, on for high speed logging
siwtch five on for not held in memory error codes
switch 678 not used
switch two On for logging to start on power up
switch three On for ecu air modification (off normally)
switch four,, on for high speed logging
siwtch five on for not held in memory error codes
switch 678 not used
05-11-2005, 02:05 PM
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cheers Gareth 
and i had my answer in 10 minutes! 
anyone got any recommendations on datalogging with the thing?
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This type of topic shows the power of PF when used properly.
It would have been quite hard to find that info anywhere in the world
It would have been quite hard to find that info anywhere in the world
anyone got any recommendations on datalogging with the thing?
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update:
just had a play with mine
and dipswitches 6,7,8 do appear to have some small effect on mine
before, i didn't have the 'total engine run time'
but now i do.....??
and some of the other displays have changed too
are the monitors all the same, or does it vary?
i have a startup screen of "FIRST MOTORSPORT"
Although i see no eprom, so is it stored in RAM?
don't think it loads that name from the ecu as it shows that first and then loads from the ecu eprom
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just had a play with mine
and dipswitches 6,7,8 do appear to have some small effect on mine
before, i didn't have the 'total engine run time'
but now i do.....??
and some of the other displays have changed too
are the monitors all the same, or does it vary?
i have a startup screen of "FIRST MOTORSPORT"
Although i see no eprom, so is it stored in RAM?
don't think it loads that name from the ecu as it shows that first and then loads from the ecu eprom
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thanks Gareth
maybe it depends on the software version, mine is 6.52...
would like to get hold of the pectel software for logging
Does anyone know ift hey still sell it, or is this stuff too ancient/obsolete for them to bother with now?
maybe it depends on the software version, mine is 6.52...
would like to get hold of the pectel software for logging
Does anyone know ift hey still sell it, or is this stuff too ancient/obsolete for them to bother with now?
06-11-2005, 08:09 AM
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cheers Jon
just what i was looking for
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DOS, command prompts and floppy disks!
works a treat
wonder if they have done a windows version? i'll keep an eye on their site when it comes back
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just what i was looking for
old skool
DOS, command prompts and floppy disks!
works a treat
wonder if they have done a windows version? i'll keep an eye on their site when it comes back
passionford
06-11-2005, 09:17 AM
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btw
the cable needed from the pectel monitor to laptop is
pin2-2
pin3-3
pin5-5
(the cable supplied with an S8 does the job)
the cable needed from the pectel monitor to laptop is
pin2-2
pin3-3
pin5-5
(the cable supplied with an S8 does the job)
06-11-2005, 11:18 AM
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ok got the dart working with 98 but can't get it working on xp computer guess it's just too old
no worries cos the laptop i use is 98
but it's only logging 7 data channels, the main one i want to log is egt
so far i have found that,contrary to the instruction book, my version of the pectel gives:
dipswitch 2 ON gives oil pressure
dipswitch 3 ON shows exhaust temp
dipswitch 8 ON shows fuel pressure
interesting though, well to me anyway
no worries cos the laptop i use is 98
but it's only logging 7 data channels, the main one i want to log is egt
so far i have found that,contrary to the instruction book, my version of the pectel gives:
dipswitch 2 ON gives oil pressure
dipswitch 3 ON shows exhaust temp
dipswitch 8 ON shows fuel pressure
interesting though, well to me anyway
06-11-2005, 12:03 PM
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I guess the manual being mailed out are the one I scanned and since my monitor ispretty old its manual probably aint got all the later functions that later revisions made possible. Just a guess why the manual don't cover some functions.
06-11-2005, 12:10 PM
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Have you got part numbers for the correct fuel and oil pressure senders - my monitor didn't come with any, and I can't find anyone who can give me a specific sender part number, only "just use VDO", but of course they make different senders, probably with different calibrations.
Similarly, what thermocouple, and does the extension lead need to be compensating or not ?
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Similarly, what thermocouple, and does the extension lead need to be compensating or not ?
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i would also like to know about the pressure senders
tried the one that came with a racetech oil pressure gauge and its way out
for thermocouple, like gareth says any k-type will do, the one i has comes with a long lead on and the correct plug, i read that normal copper wire cannot be used for an extension or accuracy suffers
but there are 2 pots inside the monitor on a seperate board for the thermocouple, i guess for upper and lower calibration points?
compared my reading to a standalone k-type thermometer and it was accurate
tried the one that came with a racetech oil pressure gauge and its way out
for thermocouple, like gareth says any k-type will do, the one i has comes with a long lead on and the correct plug, i read that normal copper wire cannot be used for an extension or accuracy suffers
but there are 2 pots inside the monitor on a seperate board for the thermocouple, i guess for upper and lower calibration points?
compared my reading to a standalone k-type thermometer and it was accurate
06-11-2005, 12:39 PM
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for thermocouple, like gareth says any k-type will do, the one i has comes with a long lead on and the correct plug, i read that normal copper wire cannot be used for an extension or accuracy suffers
but there are 2 pots inside the monitor on a seperate board for the thermocouple, i guess for upper and lower calibration points?
ill upload the manual,,, so anyone can have it
06-11-2005, 12:51 PM
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heres how i mounted my thermocouple on my t34,,, its a normal stainless thermocouple gland with an adaptor from 1/8bsp(thermocouple gland) to lambda thread
06-11-2005, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Andreas
I guess the manual being mailed out are the one I scanned and since my monitor ispretty old its manual probably aint got all the later functions that later revisions made possible. Just a guess why the manual don't cover some functions.
Andreas has yours got the oil pressure and fuel pressure functions?
anyone with any newer instructions? i still can't work out how to toggle between 7 channel and 9 channel logging
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I havent got any extra connectors for either fuel or oil pressure but will try and see what happends if I play around with switches 6-9. 
Perhaps its possible to modify mine to get these functions too as I would love to log fuel pressure and EGT.
Perhaps its possible to modify mine to get these functions too as I would love to log fuel pressure and EGT.
09-11-2005, 07:51 PM
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there's some vdo senders here under the STACK stuff
http://www.motoscope.co.uk/gauges.htm
but they are 0 - 10 bar
when i have no senders connected the oil and fuel pressure channels read 5 bar,
does that mean they will only read up to 5 bar
and need 0 - 5 bar sensors?
http://www.motoscope.co.uk/gauges.htm
but they are 0 - 10 bar
when i have no senders connected the oil and fuel pressure channels read 5 bar,
does that mean they will only read up to 5 bar
and need 0 - 5 bar sensors?
09-11-2005, 08:38 PM
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ok thanks Gareth.
also found these
Pressure Sensor 5 BAR - ⅛"NPTF Thread
part number 360 081 029 004
£34.96
from http://www.etbinstruments.com/Sensors_ancillaries.htm
also found these
Pressure Sensor 5 BAR - ⅛"NPTF Thread
part number 360 081 029 004
£34.96
from http://www.etbinstruments.com/Sensors_ancillaries.htm
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ok i just bought a second pectel monitor
this one has a different pcb inside with a conventional EPROM unlike the first one.
on power up this one reads
FORD MOTORSPORT
BOREHAM
then software version 6.60e
ok i viewed the data in the eprom, and could read all the error messages and displays in the ascii text, but could not see the startup message. why? is it encrypted, or is it not stored in the EPROM. either way i don't see why....
also i got the first monitor to log egt, fuel and oil pressure etc by playing with the dipswitches, then the DART just automatically showed the extra traces up, so i was pleased about that
also, with no sensors connected i.e. open circuit, the pressures (oil and fuel) both read 15 bar whereas the other one they are 5 bar, so does it require different sensors?
this one has a different pcb inside with a conventional EPROM unlike the first one.
on power up this one reads
FORD MOTORSPORT
BOREHAM
then software version 6.60e
ok i viewed the data in the eprom, and could read all the error messages and displays in the ascii text, but could not see the startup message. why? is it encrypted, or is it not stored in the EPROM. either way i don't see why....
also i got the first monitor to log egt, fuel and oil pressure etc by playing with the dipswitches, then the DART just automatically showed the extra traces up, so i was pleased about that
also, with no sensors connected i.e. open circuit, the pressures (oil and fuel) both read 15 bar whereas the other one they are 5 bar, so does it require different sensors?
17-11-2005, 09:20 PM
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I think an email to VDO may be needed to get the resistance/pressure curves for the different senders.
The only info I have found so far is that the resistance ranges up to about 180 ohms at higher pressure. If you know what your fuel/oil pressure is, say, at idle, it could then be worth having a play with various different resistors to replicate the sender (connect a resistor between the appropriate monitor wire and earth) until the monitor gives close-on to the reading you'd expect ie if at idle your fuel pressure is 60psi, and a resistor of 150 ohms gives a reading of 60 psi on the monitor, it's just a case then of comparing this resistance value to the different sender curves to select the closest one.
If anyone knows the correct sender, or can think of a better/easier way than this, spill the beans.
The only info I have found so far is that the resistance ranges up to about 180 ohms at higher pressure. If you know what your fuel/oil pressure is, say, at idle, it could then be worth having a play with various different resistors to replicate the sender (connect a resistor between the appropriate monitor wire and earth) until the monitor gives close-on to the reading you'd expect ie if at idle your fuel pressure is 60psi, and a resistor of 150 ohms gives a reading of 60 psi on the monitor, it's just a case then of comparing this resistance value to the different sender curves to select the closest one.
If anyone knows the correct sender, or can think of a better/easier way than this, spill the beans.