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Old 04-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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Will post a pic of my board in 30-45min, not that it matters but would be nice to be able to change the start up message to something more personal than Mountune. (in case of theft)
Old 12-09-2006, 02:36 PM
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Just got myself a Pectel Monitor at last

What can you guys tell me about it

Was told the monitor came out of a WRC car and the button on the side was a reset button? The yellow lead is a turbo temp monitor and there is a four pin lead aswell which i have no idea on? The Eprom has DOM 6.52 ES mean anything to anyone?

I take it the two red lights are temp and volt warning lights but whats the little green light next to the no.7?

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Thanks for any help guys
Old 12-09-2006, 03:10 PM
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The button on the side is RECORD if you press it the green light will come on. The four way connector is probably containing, 5Volt, oil pressure signal , fuel pressure signal and analogue gnd, It looks like these were added later. Have you powered it up yet??? Also can I ask what you paid for it? PM me if you want
Old 12-09-2006, 03:29 PM
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Paul,
If it was out of a WRC car, then it will have been configured for T6, so will need changing for you P8.

I have just bought T6 for my car and so I will have to pay for my Pectel monitor to be converted to T6.

Alternatively, we could do a cash adjustment your way (as yours is a later version) and you have my one?
Old 12-09-2006, 03:39 PM
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Hi, it won't need adjusting for P8. They came ready for both, its pins 3 and 5 for P8 and pins 11 and 13 for T6. however you will need a pectel board in the ECU to talkto the monitor. Full details available
Old 12-09-2006, 03:41 PM
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mike i thought you wouldof fitted a gems dash, no need for the monitor then

if i had the money i would be doing this
Old 12-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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Get on CAN mike...thats what they made the T6 for....the gems dash looks so nice.....

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I should have some pics of it lit up later.... not been too long installing it....
Old 12-09-2006, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sibster
Get on CAN mike...thats what they made the T6 for....the gems dash looks so nice.....



I should have some pics of it lit up later.... not been too long installing it....
i see you bit the bullet mate
Old 12-09-2006, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Hi, it won't need adjusting for P8. They came ready for both, its pins 3 and 5 for P8 and pins 11 and 13 for T6. however you will need a pectel board in the ECU to talkto the monitor. Full details available
This is my pectel board in my P8

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Old 12-09-2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by sibster
Get on CAN mike...thats what they made the T6 for....the gems dash looks so nice.....



I should have some pics of it lit up later.... not been too long installing it....
i see you bit the bullet mate
No choice pal...it is quite trick though...
Old 12-09-2006, 04:13 PM
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sibster


ive got the software,,, just sadly couldnt afford the display
Old 13-09-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Hi, it won't need adjusting for P8. They came ready for both, its pins 3 and 5 for P8 and pins 11 and 13 for T6. however you will need a pectel board in the ECU to talkto the monitor. Full details available
This is my pectel board in my P8

there is a small hardware mod that might need doing if your monitor doesn't work, although i would expect most tuners to do the mod when fitting a pectel board, it's just that from the factory P8's don't have the mod so need doing if you bought say a pectel board mail order.

also on L8 it is possible to have the pectel datastream disabled in software although it's usually set ON, not sure with the IEMS P8, although i would expect it to be available and usually set ON, most tuners switch it on for mapping and later fault finding whern you take the car back, even if no monitor is fitted
Old 13-09-2006, 09:36 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, the Ecu I have was running a monitor before on it so hopefully I'll have no probs
Old 14-09-2006, 07:56 AM
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Paul,
Dont quote me on this but did Dave ever have a working pectel monitor on his car?!?!
Old 14-09-2006, 10:40 AM
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Well the loom and monitor are being mated up so we'll soon find out

Also from what Stu was saying I think the fact that Ahmed/Harvey fitted the Pectel board I'll be ok.. I remember Ahmed showing me his pectel mapping monitor with three dials on the front
Old 14-09-2006, 10:41 AM
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So how much did it cost you?
Old 14-09-2006, 10:42 AM
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Old 14-09-2006, 10:46 AM
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Old 14-09-2006, 10:55 AM
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Old 28-09-2006, 02:47 PM
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Okey dokey got the loom back from Ryan with the correct plug

Ryan was also kind enough to tell me the little four pin pink wired loom is +12, GND, oil pressure and fuel pressure.. where can I get the sensors for these or is it a mission

Anyway powered it up today and it seems it was a Dome monitor originally, I think I'll get that Eprom off to you stu for the name change

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This pic took a few goes as it flashes soo fast

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Then this screen for a while

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Then unfortunally this screen

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Does this mean my ECU needs setting up to talk to it?
Old 28-09-2006, 02:52 PM
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Yes it does, or that you haven't connected it correctly.
Old 28-09-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
The button on the side is RECORD if you press it the green light will come on.
Is this a like a short cut to dial position 7 so you don't interupt the displayed info?



Also I was thinking if the little four pin loom was oil pressure and fuel pressure are the two little blue pots in this pic so you can adjust a sensor to work with them?

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Old 28-09-2006, 03:07 PM
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Have you had the P8 modded? If you dont know, take a picture of the motherboard located UNDERNEATH the Pectel board.
Old 28-09-2006, 03:26 PM
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Give me 2secs will get a pic stu
Old 28-09-2006, 03:31 PM
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can anyone tell me what their throttle position % is on full throttle?
i cannot get mine passed 84%,is this right?
Old 28-09-2006, 03:40 PM
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84 is about right Tim as its not % its DEGREES.
Old 28-09-2006, 03:42 PM
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TF Rallyesport

yes that's right, as it represents throttle plate angle in degrees, not position in % from 0 to 100. bit crap that.
Old 28-09-2006, 03:43 PM
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bollocks,i changed it because i thought it was faulty and the tps i fitted failed on otterburn on stage 2,just shows i should have asked on here and not trusted some wrc rally mechanic numpty!!iam even more convinced they talk total shit now!!




stu,did you get my email?
Old 28-09-2006, 03:46 PM
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No mate, no mail from you since i sent you that list we discussed...
Old 28-09-2006, 03:53 PM
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looks (badly) modded to me
Old 28-09-2006, 04:28 PM
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Hi Nick thanks for the bits yesterday

Whats the modded bit?
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Ok was given the monitor mod diagram and with a multi meter I've double checked my P8 has the monitor mod..

I've three chains of thought whys its not working

1. Wiring isn't right.. but i'm pretty sure it is I will double check this

2. Kelv seems to think that the Monitor has possibly been configured from factory to L8 and not P8.. if this is the case I'm not sure how to get around this

3. I'm wondering if its an Immobilizer problem.. my car has a Clifford Concept 300 and the standard Ford Wipac immobilizer. To get the monitor to work, the Clifford is unalarmed/valet mode and I have to plug the wipac key in until it beeps and then turn the ignition two positions.. The monitor won't turn on unless I plug the Wipac in.. the thing is the Wipac now makes a long beep followed by 7 short beeps when the ignition is truned two positions.. which it has never done before so I'm wondering if the Wipac is turning the ECU off or something silly but if that was the case then surely it won't turn on at all?


OMG what a head ache
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the monitor only works with the engine running........
Old 28-09-2006, 08:08 PM
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they cant be configured to work with both the L8 and P8, if its been configured to work with a weber ecu it will be either one or the other.

..... or if it was genuinly from a rally car then it will be configured to run with a T6.


Just trying to source a L8 ecu so we can eliminate or prove that posibility - sold mine to SiB a little while back
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mine works on both P8 and L8
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Originally Posted by jon@work
the monitor only works with the engine running........
it should show a a functional screen tho even if the engine is not running
it wont stick on 'no communication, check cables'

- although none of the sensors readings will show anything!!
Old 28-09-2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jon@work
mine works on both P8 and L8
must be differences then, mine only worked on a L8 and only gave the 'no communication ' message on a P8.

and mine would show a screen of details without the engine running.

Old 28-09-2006, 08:23 PM
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mine works on l8 and p8
still shows info with engine not running
Old 28-09-2006, 08:27 PM
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Is mine the same version as your Stu? (6.52)


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