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Old 14-09-2005, 06:07 PM
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Default 500BHP turbos

What is out there that could fill the needs for a cossie to go 500bhp. Oh and has to have and internal wastegate

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GT30 Modern turbo quicker spool up than T4 etc
T4, Old style turbo strong as an old boot but is a lot more laggy than new turbos?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:09 PM
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Is there not surge issues with the GT30? Or am I confusing it with a different turbo?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:11 PM
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I have a turbonetics T60-1 BB.
Made 492BHP @ 1.8 bar boost.
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I'm going for a GT35.
Old 14-09-2005, 06:11 PM
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GT3076R-WG I just ordered one. Internally waste gated and good for 500hp. Check out www.atpturbo.com
Old 14-09-2005, 06:14 PM
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Whitneyd how much did u pay out of intrest? That is the tubro im leaning towards if i get one

BArt how much?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:19 PM
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Old 14-09-2005, 06:19 PM
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Because I'm in the US Military they gave me 10% off and free shipping. The price on the site is $1250.
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Old 14-09-2005, 06:23 PM
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I was looking at this one? http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT

What price does T4 go for out of intrest nowadays?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:25 PM
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This is a picture of the turbo on the engine, fits on youre 2WD manifold.
Old 14-09-2005, 06:28 PM
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....now i can add to this topic as i built a GT35 spec engine and had it running before deciding it was a stupid idea and breaking the car to get a Subaru only to buy an Escos ...i digress....these type of turbos AINT a str8 fit and cause no end of aggro.....my advice is do what i will be doin with the OG engine...putting a T4 on it the only mod needed is the RS500 drop bracket for alternator and having a genuine 500bhp...it will spin up at around 4k RPM only 500rpm more than a T34 .63 and pull to 8000rpm nicely @ 2bar all day everyday...and lets be honest 500bhp is alot of horses and look at Kev Sharps Escos!!! and what Hadlands acheived circa 500bhp.....not forgetting a genuine 180mph top speed!
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Thats a GT3076R-WG?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:32 PM
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It's a turbonetics T60-1 BB, I think it's almost the same spec as a GT30.

Bosch-Man, fits straight on the 2WD manifold with no modifications.
Old 14-09-2005, 06:32 PM
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Rhys - don't you have to have an engine capable of making 500bhp and not just the turbo
Old 14-09-2005, 06:33 PM
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True Phil, I dunno i just like to try something more modern And if u give the supplier the right spec u want to make the turbo cant u make it fit a 2wd manifold easily enough?
Old 14-09-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Rhys - don't you have to have an engine capable of making 500bhp and not just the turbo
maybe i have

well havent got the fuel etc yet capable but one step at a time, Turbo is next on list! Then i just gotta sort out fueling etc. but might save for autronics
Old 14-09-2005, 06:52 PM
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The AET GT30 is a drop in unit, You should be able to get the same type unit but you need to make sure the back side has the correct flange for the exhaust to bolt to,
You know you want Autronic

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Old 14-09-2005, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
The AET GT30 is a drop in unit, You should be able to get the same type unit but you need to make sure the back side has the correct flange for the exhaust to bolt to,
You know you want Autronic

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Old 14-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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What fuel system are you wanting to go with Rhys. I've got all Aeromotive.
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Mark....dont you have to modify the exhaust though?
Old 14-09-2005, 07:12 PM
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Bosch-Man,

No not with the AET unit as it has a similar backing plate to a T4 this is why it bolts up no problems, The GT35 however is a diff unit all together and needs a spacer plate to move the turbo away from the manifold if using the AET version,
Yours was the exturnal unit with PJ link pipe this is why you had to do other mod to fit it.

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Old 14-09-2005, 07:15 PM
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Reyland has the adapter.
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Mark...i'd still only go T4 now after my experience
Old 14-09-2005, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Mark...i'd still only go T4 now after my experience
The T4 is 80+ hp down on a GT35 so if you want to have a comparable Turbo then you use a GT30 and this is a drop in fit and all benafits,
I have used them all and there is no way I would use a T4 again

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Old 14-09-2005, 09:03 PM
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Mark So its the AET30 i need? If i phone around and ask for this they will know what i mean? so if i phon ATP etc just ask for that?

Yes i need a dummies guide

Did u see my email too?
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Rhys

No you need a wastegate elbow with a cone on the back so the downpipe mates to it correctly, I have not seen the same type on the APT site.

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Old 14-09-2005, 09:11 PM
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Do u know of anyone over in the US that sell them like that Mark?

So if i ask for a GT30 with a cone on the back with a 3stud pattern. Wonder if they are that common over here
Old 14-09-2005, 09:20 PM
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You have pm

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no AET are a UK company that make sell turbos so u need to contact them direct is best
u maybe able to buy the turbo from the US and get the adapter from AET
Old 14-09-2005, 09:24 PM
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does it work out much cheaper after the p+p and customs etc etc?,
also if a problem accurs, got to send back to usa.
Old 14-09-2005, 09:27 PM
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Mark PM back lol.

Fiestacossie im in the US atm so hopfully save me quite a few Ł! THen i will just take it home with my when i come back for Xmas. Thats the plan anyway!

Does the oil feeds etc fit directly onto these turbos?
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I worked it out to be Ł150 max cheaper so it was not worth it

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never say never...but i,m doing another 500bhp engine for my 3door just now and it has.........a T4

not saying i,d never try anything else....just happy with the t4,s on my cars
Old 14-09-2005, 09:43 PM
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Bring back your Escort man. Crail is duller than Richard and Judy these days
Old 14-09-2005, 10:02 PM
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lol @ rab - Kev how is the new shell coming on?

My T88 will do 500hp for you rhys - turbonetics are in america so it will be nice and cheap for you
Old 14-09-2005, 10:13 PM
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rab...soon

martin....new shell...hmmm i did about an hour on it tonight...should be done by 2008
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same expected debut of my car! lol

So the N reg is going to run again for a bit of fun bit of chacing to do with andyF
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the N reg might be out again

aye i hear andy has beat my time at crail ..so will have to do some catching up
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Glad to see you're coming back.

Dumped, is Crail long enough for yours? Will you not end up in the Forth Estuary?


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