question about rwd mk3's/4's
30-08-2005, 10:36 AM
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question about rwd mk3's/4's
Just out of interest really...as i think something of this scale is beyond me..
How come some cars have the gartrac wings(i assume for clearance of the rear beam width etc
and some dont i.e spadges old one. IMO the gartrac arches look shite so if ya can do it without, why do it with?
How come some cars have the gartrac wings(i assume for clearance of the rear beam width etc
and some dont i.e spadges old one. IMO the gartrac arches look shite so if ya can do it without, why do it with?
30-08-2005, 11:06 AM
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not really westy, as i say i reckon it would be too much for me.... unless.... lol
Well, i remember rogersports having a s1 cossie power and i think that would be cool...but not with gartrac arches...yuk..not sure if his had them arches as i only heard of it
Well, i remember rogersports having a s1 cossie power and i think that would be cool...but not with gartrac arches...yuk..not sure if his had them arches as i only heard of it
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30-08-2005, 11:29 AM
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the genuine gartrac fitted cars were made by gartrac
they fabricated all the floor and moved the front wheel base forward for the 4wd
they are as wide a sthat because i think they use the mk2 escort suspension and use a wider track
cars with normal arches basicaly have a sierra floor poan in them and the wheels just sit under the arch to give the standard look
they fabricated all the floor and moved the front wheel base forward for the 4wd
they are as wide a sthat because i think they use the mk2 escort suspension and use a wider track
cars with normal arches basicaly have a sierra floor poan in them and the wheels just sit under the arch to give the standard look
30-08-2005, 11:35 AM
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As above really the gartrac kits are for wider track.
I have both arched and unarched cars just now
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141150
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#1955082
I have both arched and unarched cars just now
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141150
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#1955082
30-08-2005, 12:47 PM
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Lee you basically shorten the floorpan and weld it on. Not quite that simple but you get the idea 
If you have a look in thew restro section there are 2 threads with this being/been done
Mate of mine is doing it on a mk4 shell justnow, will try and sort some pics if I remember
If you have a look in thew restro section there are 2 threads with this being/been done
Mate of mine is doing it on a mk4 shell justnow, will try and sort some pics if I remember
30-08-2005, 12:50 PM
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once built i take it is a Q? And does it have to undergo SVA tests etc?
i have a mint sierra hatchback..and i mean mint...undersides like new...but im on about getting rid. Would this be a candidate for the floorpan? If so ideas are running thru me head
i have a mint sierra hatchback..and i mean mint...undersides like new...but im on about getting rid. Would this be a candidate for the floorpan? If so ideas are running thru me head
30-08-2005, 12:55 PM
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I would imagine it would need to be on a Q plate, we only use them for track so never have to worry about that side of things.
Yeah your floorpan would be perfect for it, we just used a normal 1.8 saff and there all much the same
Yeah your floorpan would be perfect for it, we just used a normal 1.8 saff and there all much the same
30-08-2005, 01:06 PM
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heads ticking now!
What happens with the front inner wings(for engine mounting) and the rear inner arches? Does it all line up with the escort shell? I take it the bulkhead of the escort is cut to shape of the sierra tunnel?
What happens with the front inner wings(for engine mounting) and the rear inner arches? Does it all line up with the escort shell? I take it the bulkhead of the escort is cut to shape of the sierra tunnel?
30-08-2005, 02:18 PM
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Sierra front inner wings and lower half of the bulkhead are trimmed down to fit on the escort, likewise with the rear inners.
Lots of work involved but it can be done. Brom or JC can both do the conversion for you if you dont wanna do it yourself
Phil it can be easier mate but not always cheaper, I didnt pay much for my rwd shell but spent over a grand on front suspension and steering already. If I had used the sierra floorpan I could have just bolted all my bits I had right on to it. But then again I dont have to spend all the time welding the floorpan in so its not all bad
Lots of work involved but it can be done. Brom or JC can both do the conversion for you if you dont wanna do it yourself
Phil it can be easier mate but not always cheaper, I didnt pay much for my rwd shell but spent over a grand on front suspension and steering already. If I had used the sierra floorpan I could have just bolted all my bits I had right on to it. But then again I dont have to spend all the time welding the floorpan in so its not all bad
30-08-2005, 03:18 PM
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so i take my 3 door escort shell, and my sierra and he cuts it up and butts it together for 2k.... 
Thinking even more
Wonder what the crack it with the I.D mallarky is it a escierra or a sierascort?
Thinking even more Wonder what the crack it with the I.D mallarky
is it a escierra or a sierascort?
30-08-2005, 07:20 PM
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ok... This i running round my head faster than linford
Really looking into this now. Been wanting a project ages. Was gonna get a mk1 escort to cossie power before i bought the last escos....but didnt. This could be the one IF i get satisfactory info on dvla issues and brom gives me a good price for the fabrication! Emailed him for a rough idea!
Really looking into this now. Been wanting a project ages. Was gonna get a mk1 escort to cossie power before i bought the last escos....but didnt. This could be the one IF i get satisfactory info on dvla issues and brom gives me a good price for the fabrication! Emailed him for a rough idea!
30-08-2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 900ss
Rwd Mk3 with mk2 escort forest archs look good.
Could be worth a look if you're thinkin of building one.
Could be worth a look if you're thinkin of building one.
Davs2, yeah apart from calling in a favour and getting my mate to paint it for free i should be ok with the rest
30-08-2005, 08:04 PM
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im doing one nxet already got my eye on the shell
spoke to brom and he wants to see the car first as its already rather special
im going for the 4wd traetment lol but i would like to have the whole sierra engine bay in so everything off a sierra bolts straight in same as everything else
like transmission and rear end
so will be another resto soon once my cabs is finished and sold
spoke to brom and he wants to see the car first as its already rather special
im going for the 4wd traetment lol but i would like to have the whole sierra engine bay in so everything off a sierra bolts straight in same as everything else
like transmission and rear end
so will be another resto soon once my cabs is finished and sold
30-08-2005, 09:02 PM
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I've been thinking about this a little bit as I want something RWD.
To be honest I prefer the idea of an all new fabricated tunnel etc... rather than welding in something out of another car [screams cut and shut to me!!] Something along the lines of what Steve Scott did to PF Bens Fiesta [but actually finish it].
Could it not be longitudinally CVH like some of the sierras????
To be honest I prefer the idea of an all new fabricated tunnel etc... rather than welding in something out of another car [screams cut and shut to me!!] Something along the lines of what Steve Scott did to PF Bens Fiesta [but actually finish it].
Could it not be longitudinally CVH like some of the sierras????
30-08-2005, 09:43 PM
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I think the fabrication is probably the worst of the worries..choosing the axle/suspension/box etc.... + Stuff like changing gear/clutch cable cooling etc...etc... would be jsut as difficult
THen you need to make it handle
THen you need to make it handle