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Old 24-08-2005, 04:00 PM
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fair play rod!
Old 24-08-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Rods being sarcastic wtf is wrong with u people
That would be my take on the title too

It also provokes a reaction with a title like that to get people to read/post. Good idea Rod
Old 24-08-2005, 10:32 PM
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Nice one Rod!
Old 25-08-2005, 05:57 AM
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was nice to chat with rod and mark ... rod said it was even better as no one knew the car there ...

would love to have heard the comments from them all as his first run out did them
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Sorry lads my sense of Humour has always been misunderstood too much Monty Python when i was young.

I realise these are positive comments .
On the day one of the other compeditors was heard to say how can an old Ford be allowed to run at an event like this. He ran 161 on the day .
Old 25-08-2005, 06:52 AM
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I use the Rs owners site more than here but im guessing you Rod Tarry is that right, well i think the joke is on them mate not you

well done was it 206.8 ???

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Originally Posted by MADRod
On the day one of the other compeditors was heard to say how can an old Ford be allowed to run at an event like this. He ran 161 on the day .
I bet he realised why an "Old Ford" is allowed to run an that kind of event when it cracked the 200 mph barrier...again!
Old 25-08-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
On the day one of the other compeditors was heard to say how can an old Ford be allowed to run at an event like this. He ran 161 on the day .
What would it take for an "old Ford" to run 161 then ?
Old 25-08-2005, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
On the day one of the other compeditors was heard to say how can an old Ford be allowed to run at an event like this. He ran 161 on the day .
Wankers eh

Love kicking rich twats asses in cheapo cars
Old 25-08-2005, 09:45 PM
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Well Done Mate TOP job
Old 26-08-2005, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by MADRod
On the day one of the other compeditors was heard to say how can an old Ford be allowed to run at an event like this. He ran 161 on the day .
What would it take for an "old Ford" to run 161 then ?
In fact, if the standards were that low, I reckon a load of us should turn up next year And it's for charity, so the more, the merrier
Old 26-08-2005, 08:03 AM
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it would be hard to find a cosworth that slow nowadays lol 161
Old 26-08-2005, 08:15 AM
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When he ran 161 you should have gone up to him and said

"ive found a way to make my rubbishy old ford match your fantastic supercar for performance, im going to remove sparkplug number 3 "
Old 26-08-2005, 08:18 AM
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chip more like i'm going to remove my turbo
Old 26-08-2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
chip more like i'm going to remove my turbo
Lol, if he left the nitrous on then yeah he probably could do 161 without the turbo!
Old 26-08-2005, 08:28 AM
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it would if he used the nos .
Most cossies that try high speed runs loose a cylinder anyway chip normally number 3 and often achieve their top speed on 3 cylinders anyway lol
Old 26-08-2005, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
it would if he used the nos .
Most cossies that try high speed runs loose a cylinder anyway chip normally number 3 and often achieve their top speed on 3 cylinders anyway lol
Whys that then? heat doing in the plug?

We're getting that problem on the astra still at the moment, although the new manifold im getting made up for it should solve that as i think its largely due to the short path from number 3 on the head to the turbo on the standard manifold.
Old 26-08-2005, 08:46 AM
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nope heat melting the piston and they all say the head gasket has blown after the run .
It is common on 4 injector cosworths greens blues greys as they are reving the engines higher than they normally would for a sustained period and the injectors are flat out at 500 rpm less .The higher the engine is reved the bigger the injector needs to be it is time base issue, to put it simmply the higher the engine is reved the less time we have to get the fuel in once the valve is shut it is too late .
I would advise that you monitor afr at each exhaust port or egt and map the fuel for each cylinder
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Might look into putting 4 exhaust temp probes into the manifold for my mini, but with the astra we arent pushing the limits enough for it to be an issue enough to warrant Rob going to the hassle until we have the new engine.

I know what you mean with the injectors though, at 8000rpm its a very small window that you get in order to throw the fuel in!

Thats the good thing about nitrous though, the wet kits sort their own fuelling out and that isnt RPM dependant in any way so is far simpler really.

In fact nitrous cars tend to run rich towards the end of the run as you are probably aware anyway, so for people like rod a leanout is never an issue
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leaning off is not an issue if people would follow rods lead and pay to have them live mapped at the speeds it is capeable of after every engine alteration.But most feel it is to expensive to do this so they melt the engine instead moan about it winge at their engine builder that'll be dingy lol and 5 years later learn that live mapping is the way forward .An expensive lesson if you ask me .
Old 26-08-2005, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
leaning off is not an issue if people would follow rods lead and pay to have them live mapped at the speeds it is capeable of after every engine alteration.But most feel it is to expensive to do this so they melt the engine instead moan about it winge at their engine builder that'll be dingy lol and 5 years later learn that live mapping is the way forward .An expensive lesson if you ask me .

Expensive lessons are the only ones people remember.

Have learnt a few things melting heads and pistons many years ago myself!

Ironically with the reputation that nitrous has though, all the cars ive ever had a meltdown on were non nitrous, ive never had any form of engine failure at all on any of my nitrous'd built motors!
Old 26-08-2005, 09:12 AM
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nitors kits typically come with oversize fuel jets deliberately the manufacturers understant most people are idiots lol.
We always load a base map that will be rich all the way acroos the board then live map them taking fuel out ,it's the safest way never live map lean and try to richen often by the time you have noticed it is lean and lifted it's to late it's melted or detted.so rich and retarded and add ignition and reduce fuel saves the customers money.
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
nitors kits typically come with oversize fuel jets deliberately the manufacturers understant most people are idiots lol.
We always load a base map that will be rich all the way acroos the board then live map them taking fuel out ,it's the safest way never live map lean and try to richen often by the time you have noticed it is lean and lifted it's to late it's melted or detted.so rich and retarded and add ignition and reduce fuel saves the customers money.
Yes I always work out my own jet size ratios instead, the ones in the kit tend to be a bit rich as you say, and just like you say i always start rich and work back, a few seconds of slight borewash or spluttering is a lot better than a few seconds lean and melting everything!
Old 26-08-2005, 08:29 PM
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What was TV2005? A TV event? Someone care to explain
Old 26-08-2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AGAR-COSWORTH
What was TV2005? A TV event? Someone care to explain
Terminal Velocity 2005. An event for Supercars at RAF Woodbridge.
Old 26-08-2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
leaning off is not an issue if people would follow rods lead and pay to have them live mapped at the speeds it is capeable of after every engine alteration.But most feel it is to expensive to do this so they melt the engine instead moan about it winge at their engine builder that'll be dingy lol and 5 years later learn that live mapping is the way forward .An expensive lesson if you ask me .
Very true was at Marks today still checking/modifing the map. Have Test days at Brunters & run the car at Full Speed with everything monitored so that the car can confidently run Flatout as many times as we want. Its expensive but far cheaper than taking out an engine.
Rod
Old 26-08-2005, 09:24 PM
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That's the great thing about cosworth's, never underestimate them, you never know how much work they've had done under the bonnet.

Could be anything from knackered engine producing under 200bhp, to a total animal of over 600bhp. You just never know what it could be producing.

First thing do is look through the wheels to see what brakes it's got, Normally a good clue as to how well it's modified.....

Here's mine....

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