The Difference Between Samco & Roose.......
11-08-2005, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
exactly the kit that i have, in the same rather over the top tacky bright shade of red too.
great products, great service, but funny accent on the phone
great products, great service, but funny accent on the phone
Great guy tho!!
11-08-2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by frog
We got the ancillary kit for MrsFrog's 2wd, never quite realised how many of the little hoses there were until we started putting them all in 
11-08-2005, 03:14 PM
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Dave i had a feeling it was that kit. I was going to get that hose kit and also fit an oil breather pot from off the frst, the swirl pot looks a good idea though
11-08-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PF Dave
Oh, and you don't deal direct with Samco if your joe public it's one of their dealers you'd be talking about so try another dealer if your usual one doesn't have the hose you want in stock... Just an idea lol
Which is why everyone is turning to Roose and why Samco are sooo expensive.
Your just paying and getting agro from a middle man
12-08-2005, 05:41 AM
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there is no coparison in my view. roose much better product with a far better service and paul is a bloody nice helpfull bloke. i also would rather give my money to a small company instead of big greedy one
12-08-2005, 11:20 AM
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1. SamcoSport is the world leader in the manufacture of performance silicone hose.
2. We export to over 40 countries worldwide hence the huge demand for our products.
3. We are the manufacturers of the SamcoSport brand and not the stockists; we manufacture to order therefore it is our distributors who hold the stock. If your local dealer doesn’t have what you’re looking for you can visit our website whereyou will find a list of distributors, and their contact details, who will all be able to help you with your SamcoSport requirements.
4. All SamcoSport hoses are tested in our Research & Development Laboratory, a facility that some other hose manufacturers do not have. All hoses are put through extreme testing to ensure they are the best quality hoses available to you.
5. SamcoSport only sell direct to the trade and not to the public the reason for this being that our distributors will have stock of our products readily available for you to purchase off the shelf.
6. If you are experiencing delay’s but cannot get any help from the distributor where you placed your order, you can contact us and one of our sales team will look into the matter for you... as we did with Alex who had a great deal and now openly admits that SamcoSport hoses are his first choice everytime and has them on all of his cars!
7. The prices for SamcoSport products have always remained the same and we have no plans for an increase. Obviously a new silicone hose manufacturing company would price their products competitively in order to attract business.
8. SamcoSport hoses are built above OEM specifications and there is no advantage of having a silicone hose that is thicker for no reason, this would make the hose more rigid and only reduce the flexibility. For Example, if your hose connects between the engine and the intercooler, there is a lot of engine vibration due to the intercooler being fixed to the body of the car. For an unnecessarily thick hose, it would be difficult for the hose to absorb this vibration and may cause it to pull off or tear. SamcoSport hoses are made at the optimum thickness to allow for this vibration as well as the high boost pressures.
9. We are always looking for new kits to develop with the help of our distributors and you, the public. If you know of a car that you think deserves SamcoSport treatment you can send us your suggested application using the link on our website. All suggestions are recorded however, due to tooling costs there obviously has to be a certain number of requests before our development team would look into it.
10. SamcoSport produce over 450 direct replacement kits and have the largest range of universal parts available. We provide hoses to racing teams and car manufacturers such as Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Prodrive, Skoda WRC, Lotus, Ford Racing, Cosworth Racing & More… if it’s good enough for them!
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
If you are unsure of what silicone hoses to buy for your car and would like further information on SamcoSport products, or if you have any technical queries, please feel free to email us your questions, we are always happy to help.
Thank you for your time.
2. We export to over 40 countries worldwide hence the huge demand for our products.
3. We are the manufacturers of the SamcoSport brand and not the stockists; we manufacture to order therefore it is our distributors who hold the stock. If your local dealer doesn’t have what you’re looking for you can visit our website whereyou will find a list of distributors, and their contact details, who will all be able to help you with your SamcoSport requirements.
4. All SamcoSport hoses are tested in our Research & Development Laboratory, a facility that some other hose manufacturers do not have. All hoses are put through extreme testing to ensure they are the best quality hoses available to you.
5. SamcoSport only sell direct to the trade and not to the public the reason for this being that our distributors will have stock of our products readily available for you to purchase off the shelf.
6. If you are experiencing delay’s but cannot get any help from the distributor where you placed your order, you can contact us and one of our sales team will look into the matter for you... as we did with Alex who had a great deal and now openly admits that SamcoSport hoses are his first choice everytime and has them on all of his cars!
7. The prices for SamcoSport products have always remained the same and we have no plans for an increase. Obviously a new silicone hose manufacturing company would price their products competitively in order to attract business.
8. SamcoSport hoses are built above OEM specifications and there is no advantage of having a silicone hose that is thicker for no reason, this would make the hose more rigid and only reduce the flexibility. For Example, if your hose connects between the engine and the intercooler, there is a lot of engine vibration due to the intercooler being fixed to the body of the car. For an unnecessarily thick hose, it would be difficult for the hose to absorb this vibration and may cause it to pull off or tear. SamcoSport hoses are made at the optimum thickness to allow for this vibration as well as the high boost pressures.
9. We are always looking for new kits to develop with the help of our distributors and you, the public. If you know of a car that you think deserves SamcoSport treatment you can send us your suggested application using the link on our website. All suggestions are recorded however, due to tooling costs there obviously has to be a certain number of requests before our development team would look into it.
10. SamcoSport produce over 450 direct replacement kits and have the largest range of universal parts available. We provide hoses to racing teams and car manufacturers such as Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Prodrive, Skoda WRC, Lotus, Ford Racing, Cosworth Racing & More… if it’s good enough for them!
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
If you are unsure of what silicone hoses to buy for your car and would like further information on SamcoSport products, or if you have any technical queries, please feel free to email us your questions, we are always happy to help.
Thank you for your time.
12-08-2005, 11:43 AM
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That really was a blatant advert, but some very fair points, especially about the thickness of hose not really helping, however id still give roose my business every time cause they are such a pleasure to deal with and i dont have to fuck around going from one distributor/dealer to the next desperately searching for someone who:
A - has a clue what they are on about
B - understand me when i want to mix and match 2wd and 4wd and rs500 bits
C - has the stock
D - will get it in the post to me the same day
I can get all those points taken care of first time every time in a phonecall to roose.
A - has a clue what they are on about
B - understand me when i want to mix and match 2wd and 4wd and rs500 bits
C - has the stock
D - will get it in the post to me the same day
I can get all those points taken care of first time every time in a phonecall to roose.
12-08-2005, 11:52 AM
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My only problem I had with Samco, was when I recieved a hose that was wrong (not sure how that happens?), I couldnt just send it to them. First back to Rally Design and then on to Samco and the same coming back.
I would like to get a set for the Coupe but dont know if I can be bothered to wait, unless someone has got them on the shelf? My Zetec-S hoses took 3 months, plus another 3 for the replacement hose! IMO thats just too long.
I would like to get a set for the Coupe but dont know if I can be bothered to wait, unless someone has got them on the shelf? My Zetec-S hoses took 3 months, plus another 3 for the replacement hose! IMO thats just too long.
12-08-2005, 12:59 PM
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Chip: Hi. What I wrote obviously wasn't an advert as I did try and tailor my messgae to what has been said in this discussion but thank you for taking the time to read what I wrote, I hope it was of interest.
XS: Sorry to hear that you were experiencing problems. Rally Design are one of our biggest UK Dealers and unfortunately, due to both our returns procedures and theirs, if you do have to send a product back it must go through the correct channels due to paperwork, order numbers, delivery notes etc. I know it can take longer that way however it does mean we can keep track of all parts that are returned. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and delay. Thank you
XS: Sorry to hear that you were experiencing problems. Rally Design are one of our biggest UK Dealers and unfortunately, due to both our returns procedures and theirs, if you do have to send a product back it must go through the correct channels due to paperwork, order numbers, delivery notes etc. I know it can take longer that way however it does mean we can keep track of all parts that are returned. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and delay. Thank you
12-08-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by samcosport
Chip: Hi. What I wrote obviously wasn't an advert as I did try and tailor my messgae to what has been said in this discussion but thank you for taking the time to read what I wrote, I hope it was of interest.
XS: Sorry to hear that you were experiencing problems. Rally Design are one of our biggest UK Dealers and unfortunately, due to both our returns procedures and theirs, if you do have to send a product back it must go through the correct channels due to paperwork, order numbers, delivery notes etc. I know it can take longer that way however it does mean we can keep track of all parts that are returned. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and delay. Thank you
XS: Sorry to hear that you were experiencing problems. Rally Design are one of our biggest UK Dealers and unfortunately, due to both our returns procedures and theirs, if you do have to send a product back it must go through the correct channels due to paperwork, order numbers, delivery notes etc. I know it can take longer that way however it does mean we can keep track of all parts that are returned. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and delay. Thank you
12-08-2005, 02:23 PM
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Samco should cut the middle man out and let people DEAL DIRECT then maybe there would'nt be so many problems plus it would probley save them money to and be cheaper for joe public to by direct as we cutout the greedy little middle man. Roose obviously do a better service so who do you think people are goin to let have there money someone who takes 6-8 weeks to deliver or someone who can get you what you want in 24-48 hours and cheaper and just as good if not better 
12-08-2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by samcosport
XS: Sorry to hear that you were experiencing problems. Rally Design are one of our biggest UK Dealers and unfortunately, due to both our returns procedures and theirs, if you do have to send a product back it must go through the correct channels due to paperwork, order numbers, delivery notes etc. I know it can take longer that way however it does mean we can keep track of all parts that are returned. Again, sorry for the inconvenience and delay. Thank you
Stu
12-08-2005, 03:08 PM
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I bought some Roose Hoses through 3dr Stretch because both Samco stockists and SFS would'nt supply or produce the pipes I wanted. I had my Roose hoses within 3 working days to my spec and colour (black without logo's).. for cheaper.. now thats what I call service! Highly recommended.
Don't get me wrong the Samco's and SFS's I've had in the past have been good products, but you can't beat the above mentioned service certainly impressed me!
Don't get me wrong the Samco's and SFS's I've had in the past have been good products, but you can't beat the above mentioned service certainly impressed me!
12-08-2005, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by samcosport
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
I have Roose Motorsport ones
12-08-2005, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Originally Posted by samcosport
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
I have Roose Motorsport ones
top reply tiff
14-08-2005, 08:33 PM
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Too many posts.. I need a life!!
4. All SamcoSport hoses are tested in our Research & Development Laboratory, a facility that some other hose manufacturers do not have. All hoses are put through extreme testing to ensure they are the best quality hoses available to you.
14-08-2005, 08:49 PM
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Roose probably sit at home and chuckle about this thread. I mean, imagine having your own small company and the big dragon Samco itself bothers to comment in a thread on BBS.
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Originally Posted by MrsFrog
Originally Posted by chip-3door
exactly the kit that i have, in the same rather over the top tacky bright shade of red too.
great products, great service, but funny accent on the phone
great products, great service, but funny accent on the phone
15-08-2005, 08:52 AM
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And do Roose make a proper fitting metering head to turbo hose instaead of getting all squashed up and de-formed along with cutting at least 2 inches off the god damn pipe 
15-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by samcosport
1. SamcoSport is the world leader in the manufacture of performance silicone hose.
2. We export to over 40 countries worldwide hence the huge demand for our products.
3. We are the manufacturers of the SamcoSport brand and not the stockists; we manufacture to order therefore it is our distributors who hold the stock. If your local dealer doesnt have what youre looking for you can visit our website whereyou will find a list of distributors, and their contact details, who will all be able to help you with your SamcoSport requirements.
4. All SamcoSport hoses are tested in our Research & Development Laboratory, a facility that some other hose manufacturers do not have. All hoses are put through extreme testing to ensure they are the best quality hoses available to you.
5. SamcoSport only sell direct to the trade and not to the public the reason for this being that our distributors will have stock of our products readily available for you to purchase off the shelf.
6. If you are experiencing delays but cannot get any help from the distributor where you placed your order, you can contact us and one of our sales team will look into the matter for you... as we did with Alex who had a great deal and now openly admits that SamcoSport hoses are his first choice everytime and has them on all of his cars!
7. The prices for SamcoSport products have always remained the same and we have no plans for an increase. Obviously a new silicone hose manufacturing company would price their products competitively in order to attract business.
8. SamcoSport hoses are built above OEM specifications and there is no advantage of having a silicone hose that is thicker for no reason, this would make the hose more rigid and only reduce the flexibility. For Example, if your hose connects between the engine and the intercooler, there is a lot of engine vibration due to the intercooler being fixed to the body of the car. For an unnecessarily thick hose, it would be difficult for the hose to absorb this vibration and may cause it to pull off or tear. SamcoSport hoses are made at the optimum thickness to allow for this vibration as well as the high boost pressures.
9. We are always looking for new kits to develop with the help of our distributors and you, the public. If you know of a car that you think deserves SamcoSport treatment you can send us your suggested application using the link on our website. All suggestions are recorded however, due to tooling costs there obviously has to be a certain number of requests before our development team would look into it.
10. SamcoSport produce over 450 direct replacement kits and have the largest range of universal parts available. We provide hoses to racing teams and car manufacturers such as Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Prodrive, Skoda WRC, Lotus, Ford Racing, Cosworth Racing & More if its good enough for them!
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
If you are unsure of what silicone hoses to buy for your car and would like further information on SamcoSport products, or if you have any technical queries, please feel free to email us your questions, we are always happy to help.
Thank you for your time.
2. We export to over 40 countries worldwide hence the huge demand for our products.
3. We are the manufacturers of the SamcoSport brand and not the stockists; we manufacture to order therefore it is our distributors who hold the stock. If your local dealer doesnt have what youre looking for you can visit our website whereyou will find a list of distributors, and their contact details, who will all be able to help you with your SamcoSport requirements.
4. All SamcoSport hoses are tested in our Research & Development Laboratory, a facility that some other hose manufacturers do not have. All hoses are put through extreme testing to ensure they are the best quality hoses available to you.
5. SamcoSport only sell direct to the trade and not to the public the reason for this being that our distributors will have stock of our products readily available for you to purchase off the shelf.
6. If you are experiencing delays but cannot get any help from the distributor where you placed your order, you can contact us and one of our sales team will look into the matter for you... as we did with Alex who had a great deal and now openly admits that SamcoSport hoses are his first choice everytime and has them on all of his cars!
7. The prices for SamcoSport products have always remained the same and we have no plans for an increase. Obviously a new silicone hose manufacturing company would price their products competitively in order to attract business.
8. SamcoSport hoses are built above OEM specifications and there is no advantage of having a silicone hose that is thicker for no reason, this would make the hose more rigid and only reduce the flexibility. For Example, if your hose connects between the engine and the intercooler, there is a lot of engine vibration due to the intercooler being fixed to the body of the car. For an unnecessarily thick hose, it would be difficult for the hose to absorb this vibration and may cause it to pull off or tear. SamcoSport hoses are made at the optimum thickness to allow for this vibration as well as the high boost pressures.
9. We are always looking for new kits to develop with the help of our distributors and you, the public. If you know of a car that you think deserves SamcoSport treatment you can send us your suggested application using the link on our website. All suggestions are recorded however, due to tooling costs there obviously has to be a certain number of requests before our development team would look into it.
10. SamcoSport produce over 450 direct replacement kits and have the largest range of universal parts available. We provide hoses to racing teams and car manufacturers such as Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Prodrive, Skoda WRC, Lotus, Ford Racing, Cosworth Racing & More if its good enough for them!
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
If you are unsure of what silicone hoses to buy for your car and would like further information on SamcoSport products, or if you have any technical queries, please feel free to email us your questions, we are always happy to help.
Thank you for your time.
10. SamcoSport produce over 450 direct replacement kits and have the largest range of universal parts available. We provide hoses to racing teams and car manufacturers such as Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Prodrive, Skoda WRC, Lotus, Ford Racing, Cosworth Racing & More
if its good enough for them!
You guys have probably spent tonnes of cash on your Fords getting them to the highest standard possible with the best performance and looks... so why would you not want the best available silicone hoses for your engine!
XS, I recall you nightmare mate
Give Paul a try at Roose, he may surprise you and use your pipes to make a mould for the coupe's pipework and you may get your cheaper because of this 
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Samco cant do that, they are too big, wouldnt make sense.
If roose ever became MEGA succussfull like Samco then they would end up going down the same road no doubt.
If roose ever became MEGA succussfull like Samco then they would end up going down the same road no doubt.
Jano_OddKidd, you nutter
15-08-2005, 09:37 AM
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Big headedness, or just can;t be done with the hassle
I suppose they'd never het anything done, but isn't that what employees are for??
I suppose they'd never het anything done, but isn't that what employees are for??
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
XS, I recall you nightmare mate Give Paul a try at Roose, he may surprise you and use your pipes to make a mould for the coupe's pipework and you may get your cheaper because of this
Give Paul a try at Roose, he may surprise you and use your pipes to make a mould for the coupe's pipework and you may get your cheaper because of this 
Is he quite local?Thanks
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15-08-2005, 11:22 AM
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@billycabrio....you cant blaim samco going for the big money...
if you had a company...what would you do...sticking around with a couple of pounds....or going for the big money....
there is a downside....and thats what it is now....a service that take a while...
if you had a company...what would you do...sticking around with a couple of pounds....or going for the big money....
there is a downside....and thats what it is now....a service that take a while...
17-08-2005, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
XS, I recall you nightmare mate Give Paul a try at Roose, he may surprise you and use your pipes to make a mould for the coupe's pipework and you may get your cheaper because of this
Give Paul a try at Roose, he may surprise you and use your pipes to make a mould for the coupe's pipework and you may get your cheaper because of this Is he quite local?Thanks
Stu
I spoke to Paul yesterday.............
31-08-2005, 04:34 PM
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Some nice comments on here guys thankyou.
I don't know about any other hose manufacturers but my policy is that we are big enough to cope, small enough to care.
I think if the cap fits i may as well wear it.
Regards paul.
I don't know about any other hose manufacturers but my policy is that we are big enough to cope, small enough to care.
I think if the cap fits i may as well wear it.
Regards paul.
31-08-2005, 04:38 PM
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Paul
Ever since i organised the PassionFord Group by of your hoses a few years ago i have been singing your praises to all
Top hoses and TOP TOP bloke
Keep it up Paul
Ever since i organised the PassionFord Group by of your hoses a few years ago i have been singing your praises to all
Top hoses and TOP TOP bloke
Keep it up Paul
31-08-2005, 09:40 PM
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I have mostly Samco on my car ( Roose weren't around then ) but I needed some of the difficult ones for my engine rebuild ( the ones from the mocal heat exchanger I think) and 3dr stretch got me some Roose ones in a couple of days
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