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Old 25-07-2005, 06:54 AM
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Default Big Injectors are awesome off boost ;)

Tick over is bang on, car is so much better than on the greys...



I know thats going to be down to the map as much as the injectors but as its a very simular map off boost then the injectors must really be that much better by design
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Stu had greys running perfectly from what he was posting on here (lambda of 0.99) so i dont see how you can really get any better than that, or werent yours mapped right at idle etc in the first place?

Either way, glad its all sorted now

You taking it to the ring in september, be good to see it in the flesh
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Chip - was nothing wrong with the grey's - the new ones are just better. Would have passed the MOT.....

Nothing was sorted, as nothing was broke.

As for the closed Lamda - what has that got to do with anything ?

These are just better.
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Stu had greys running perfectly, so i was just wondering how they were better than perfect?

ie in what way are they better?
Old 25-07-2005, 08:34 AM
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if thats the dingy i remember i stayed at the end of you garden afew years ago in a tent!!!!!!!!!!

it was after natinal day and a load of people stayed at your house after nat day and we all went to alton towers after!!!! blinding weekend, and thanks for letting me stay!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Stu had greys running perfectly, so i was just wondering how they were better than perfect?

ie in what way are they better?
Perfect for greys yes....

These new ones are better than the grey's - why is that so difficult to understand....
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Better in what way is what i mean mate?

As in that you actually notice while driving.

Im aware of all the technical differences, just wondered where in the rpm range etc you could feel a difference though, as from what i understand from Stu its acutally possible to get the greys to do EXACTLY what you want them to in terms of fuel delivery all over the rev range anyway.
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Chip,

Improved injector response time and atomisation resulting in improved combustion and emissions.
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Originally Posted by Karl
Chip,

Improved injector response time and atomisation resulting in improved combustion and emissions.

What sort of change did you see to the power curve on the new injectors from the improved combustion Karl?

How much did the emissions change by?

Do you know if its made a significant difference to economy?
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Reduction in HC is most noticable effect.

In driving terms the idle sounds cleaner, and drives slightly smoother than when running greys even with identical mapped conditions.

In terms of on boost no change in power as emissions on boost are more dependant on spark quality than injector atomisiation.
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Originally Posted by Karl
Reduction in HC is most noticable effect.

In driving terms the idle sounds cleaner, and drives slightly smoother than when running greys even with identical mapped conditions.

In terms of on boost no change in power as emissions on boost are more dependant on spark quality than injector atomisiation.
Ah, thats the sort of info I was after, thats what I thought might be interesting to people as opposed to "better"
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I thought it was a secret
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Originally Posted by dingy
I thought it was a secret
So you started a thread about it on the countries largest ford site?
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Funny, I said this in 2002 but everyone (including you Ding me old chum! ) said I was talking out of my ringpiece!
Ben
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Go back to 2000-2001 and everyone was denying anything more than RS500 spec was possible without the worst powerband ever, cost 80 buzzilion quid, and last all of 10seconds.

And now we all running GT35s and 1000cc injectors like theres no tomorrow
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Funny, I said this in 2002 but everyone (including you Ding me old chum! ) said I was talking out of my ringpiece!
Ben
I think Dingy only actually believes anything when Karl gets round to trying it, doesnt matter if the rest of the world have been doing it for years or not
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chip - i said its better in the first post mate....don't have to give out trade secrets do I LOL....

Ben, nice to see your alive LOL....will be ready for a feature very soon mate - if you are still interested
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by PF Ben
Funny, I said this in 2002 but everyone (including you Ding me old chum! ) said I was talking out of my ringpiece!
Ben
I think Dingy only actually believes anything when Karl gets round to trying it, doesnt matter if the rest of the world have been doing it for years or not
Yes thats true - sure he said your a cock or maybe that was me
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Dingy, glad you bought the feature up mate so I've got witnesses now - MATE, I STILL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO FEATURE YOURS AND TIMS CARS - I'M READY WHEN YOU BOTH ARE!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
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PS - Steve itsmeagain, I know mate... but I still go slated three years ago, what was it - "what would a know-nothing journo know!"
Old 25-07-2005, 11:54 AM
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top stuff claw, looking forward to a blast behind the wheel en route to the ring
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Tim's is getting mapped in the next 2 weeks mate.

Mine this week
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Dingy,If you need a support vechile (vito van) to stick anything in when you and tim go to brunters then give us a shout
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Dingy, glad you bought the feature up mate so I've got witnesses now - MATE, I STILL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO FEATURE YOURS AND TIMS CARS - I'M READY WHEN YOU BOTH ARE!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
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Remember Dingbat the Bullshit stops when the clock starts, no crying at the end of Brunters. .
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by PF Ben
Dingy, glad you bought the feature up mate so I've got witnesses now - MATE, I STILL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO FEATURE YOURS AND TIMS CARS - I'M READY WHEN YOU BOTH ARE!!!!!!!!
Cheers
Remember Dingbat the Bullshit stops when the clock starts, no crying at the end of Brunters like i did when saw i had to actualy go around a corner
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by PF Ben
Dingy, glad you bought the feature up mate so I've got witnesses now - MATE, I STILL REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO FEATURE YOURS AND TIMS CARS - I'M READY WHEN YOU BOTH ARE!!!!!!!!
Cheers,
Ben
Remember Dingbat the Bullshit stops when the clock starts, no crying at the end of Brunters. .
Why would i be crying @ the end of brunters ?

Car is not built for top speed - be better have a feature @ curborugh or somewhere thats interesting. you blinkered old fool
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i can say 1000cc injectors on L8 ticks over smoothly and has legal emmissions Thanks to Karl
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What make of injectors is this then?
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some peeps where using four huge injectors.

with very good results back in 87, when they had the availaility of eight if they wanted,

so nothing new then.
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Martin these injectors are much better than the ones available 18 years ago so its everything new
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