General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

16v 2.1L Zetec + OddKidd's Conversion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24-06-2004, 07:23 PM
  #1  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default 16v 2.1L Zetec + OddKidd's Conversion

Been happening for a while now, but this is how far we have got!

Any constructive suggestions would be kool.




Gonna be running on P8 with ALS and other goodies that we are still trying to design fittment for?
Old 24-06-2004, 07:34 PM
  #2  
Demondave
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Demondave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looks good matey!
Old 24-06-2004, 07:44 PM
  #3  
ian r
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
ian r's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CLEVEDON NEAR BRISTOL
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

looks gr8t is this going to be a conversion you will be offering if so pm a price
Old 24-06-2004, 07:51 PM
  #4  
B13F RS
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
B13F RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 1,116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

looks pretty to me nice work
Old 24-06-2004, 07:55 PM
  #5  
Dan
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Local, when i'm home...
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looks good mate, all neat and tidy!
Old 24-06-2004, 08:16 PM
  #6  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Old 24-06-2004, 08:26 PM
  #7  
Lee @ Fusion
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Lee @ Fusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Workin on the car , or workin the missus
Posts: 2,442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jano , what turbo u running mate , T3 ?? T35, what about cams ??

Inlet manifold , any thoughts on a custom plenem or are u sticking with the restrictive efi set up ??



what power u hoping for , if your running a similar spec engine to me it'll be interesting to see how the 2 different management set ups work .
Old 24-06-2004, 08:33 PM
  #8  
paulp
PassionFord Regular
 
paulp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: twydall in GILLINGHAM
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Is that going to be running the same if not more power than james bentleys rs[soy]
Old 24-06-2004, 08:51 PM
  #9  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lee @ Fusion
Jano , what turbo u running mate , T3 ?? T35, what about cams ??
The Turbo is a Hybrid T3 but we maybe fitting a TO4s front end soon depending on a few factors.......$


Cams have a new profile

Originally Posted by Lee @ Fusion
Inlet manifold , any thoughts on a custom plenem or are u sticking with the restrictive efi set up ??
ATM we have no figures or restrictions so for this reason we will be using the EFI setup unless we have a reason to change, but have you any pics of your custom plenums?


Originally Posted by Lee @ Fusion
what power u hoping for , if your running a similar spec engine to me it'll be interesting to see how the 2 different management set ups work .
This is a customers car & is not getting built for figures.
The following users liked this post:
dirty-diesel (05-01-2015)
Old 24-06-2004, 08:56 PM
  #10  
Ryan
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
Ryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southampton
Posts: 18,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how have you got round the dizzyless zetec part for it to run on p8?
Old 24-06-2004, 08:59 PM
  #11  
©hatter Box
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
©hatter Box's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Surrey
Posts: 5,983
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Lee @ Fusion
Jano , what turbo u running mate , T3 ?? T35, what about cams ??

Inlet manifold , any thoughts on a custom plenem or are u sticking with the restrictive efi set up ??



what power u hoping for , if your running a similar spec engine to me it'll be interesting to see how the 2 different management set ups work .

lee paul r old fiesta had a std efi inlet and that was good for 300bhp odd and the rover inlet makes no diffant i been told
Old 24-06-2004, 09:00 PM
  #12  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default



Two ways of doing this, both are available for 8v & 16v setups
Old 24-06-2004, 09:05 PM
  #13  
Ryan
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
Ryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southampton
Posts: 18,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

do tell
Old 24-06-2004, 09:57 PM
  #14  
Rossco
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Rossco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Near Ipswich.
Posts: 4,976
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looking cool mate, pretty much what ive got planned for the S1

2.1 16v turbo
Late focus head (has bigger valves and solid lifters, so iam told)
Focus zorst mainfold with a plate made to bolt a T3 on to it
Rover inlet manifold
FRST managament (latter to be live mapped)

I am aiming for about 250bhp.
Old 24-06-2004, 09:59 PM
  #15  
Rossco
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Rossco's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Near Ipswich.
Posts: 4,976
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oh also i think the Rover inlet will flow better, have a look at the Field motorsport inlet, looks a little bit like the Rover one!!
Old 24-06-2004, 10:10 PM
  #16  
PhilM
PassionBMW.com Member
 
PhilM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 3,530
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jano, you get my prices dude?
Old 24-06-2004, 10:21 PM
  #17  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

I forgot mate.. i havent been out for a while

I will Email you price first thing. i may need a few things myself
Old 25-06-2004, 07:55 AM
  #18  
Lee @ Fusion
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Lee @ Fusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Workin on the car , or workin the missus
Posts: 2,442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jano , just done this inlet for a customer https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...=855736#855736

Got me thinking thats all .
Old 25-06-2004, 08:42 AM
  #19  
Jon ERST S2
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Jon ERST S2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kent
Posts: 3,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jano - how does the air get from the turbo to the inlet ?

looks nice though.
Old 25-06-2004, 08:51 AM
  #20  
R4N SS
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (6)
 
R4N SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: ?
Posts: 27,161
Received 147 Likes on 139 Posts
Default

looks good
Old 25-06-2004, 09:09 AM
  #21  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lee @ Fusion
Jano , just done this inlet for a customer https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...=855736#855736

Got me thinking thats all .
Looks good mayteee

But as i said we dont have any reason to use an uprated inlet as i think the STD EFi stuff will flow enough air for what we want, as we are not trying to prove things by this build.

It is another quailty conversion that has been done for great value for money! The customer will be very very happy with the final bill but most importantly he will love his car once again......To drive and destroy as he likes again.......
Old 25-06-2004, 09:38 AM
  #22  
CraigN
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
CraigN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bristol
Posts: 6,208
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

ryan u jsut need a baby board to run dizzyless on a p8
Old 25-06-2004, 09:44 AM
  #23  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

CraigN i dont think that was Ryan's question.

He was asking how i get a trigger to run the dizzyless spark, not how to convert to a ECU.
Old 25-06-2004, 09:53 AM
  #24  
Ryan
15K+ Super Poster!!
 
Ryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southampton
Posts: 18,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

did you use a cam or crank sensor sentup?
Old 25-06-2004, 09:55 AM
  #25  
zvhturbo
PassionFord Post Troll
 
zvhturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thats all looking very neat and tidy Jano.

You got any Decent 2.0ltr Zetec engines complete lying around?
I want to convert mine to twin cam soon.

Matt.
Old 25-06-2004, 10:02 AM
  #26  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Yes mate got loads of engines and components from std - WRC CGi Focus Blocks, Rods, Pistons, Bolts etc....all 909 part numbers
Old 25-06-2004, 10:16 AM
  #27  
zvhturbo
PassionFord Post Troll
 
zvhturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How much for a decent standard 2.0???

Need as much as possible, things like pulleys, thermo housing, coil pack, head, cams, etc etc.
Old 25-06-2004, 10:32 AM
  #28  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Do you want a good engine that will go again with the same parts or one to oversize and fook about wid.......

Prices are about £300

The other parts that make a good engine build will cost you twice that for each component. Uprated Rods & Pistons for the 2L are available. lightened, stress relived, fitted with or without proper rings.....
Old 25-06-2004, 10:38 AM
  #29  
zvhturbo
PassionFord Post Troll
 
zvhturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kent
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

My bottom end was built to last so i'm not too worried about that and don't want silly lumpy cams or anything.

Just want to convert to twin cam so i can get a decent head gasket on and run some decent boost.
Old 25-06-2004, 11:23 AM
  #30  
CraigN
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
CraigN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bristol
Posts: 6,208
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

my bad
Old 25-06-2004, 01:37 PM
  #31  
nthorpey
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
nthorpey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 1,260
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jano_OddKidd, how much for a cgi 2.0 block and how you know there proper ones, where you getting em from? PM me if you like
Old 25-06-2004, 02:07 PM
  #32  
Hansenturbo
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Hansenturbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: denmark +500 post
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

looks damn nice
Old 26-06-2004, 07:38 AM
  #33  
Versus_Creations
Ask me a question!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Versus_Creations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Romford Essex
Posts: 6,274
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nthorpey
Jano_OddKidd, how much for a cgi 2.0 block and how you know there proper ones, where you getting em from? PM me if you like
You can tell it is the CGi block so easy if you know what your looking for

They are priceless, as are all the components from these engines.

It dont matter where they come from does it.............
Old 27-06-2004, 10:23 AM
  #34  
AdrianFRST
I'm Finding My Feet Here Now
 
AdrianFRST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North Wales
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It's farily obvious if it's CGI or not, can you guess if this one is?



Old 27-06-2004, 11:13 AM
  #35  
M Brian
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
M Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 3,936
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thats a difficult one ade!!

whats special about the CGI ones then?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mk3ste
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
19
17-10-2021 10:09 AM
arkeye
Ford Focus ST
1
20-02-2016 01:22 PM
abz474
Cars for Sale
9
01-11-2015 06:53 PM
SMILER258
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
36
28-09-2015 09:04 AM
mondeomark
Cars & Parts Wanted.
0
28-09-2015 06:28 AM



Quick Reply: 16v 2.1L Zetec + OddKidd's Conversion



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:06 PM.