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Old 18-07-2005, 06:46 PM
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Ok lets assume i put it together correctly

Right obviously everything included bar the intercooler/rad

Would make 600bhp easy @ 2.2 bar i reckon.

Std NEW crank balanced rods cossie racing pistons..2wd head ported to 26mm in 25mm out...proper cams for the power...7.9-1 comp ratio...all the correct bolts,wrc 4 layer gasket...swedish plenum 4 x 1000cc injectors gt35 with 1.06 ex housing and external wastgate...manifold to take it all....so complete can be heard running..sounds cool...NMS chip thats close to spec...so would need fine tunning from karl.

Please keep it here i want guide prices as i dont know wether i'd get more just stripping it....Please remember no one will buy it as the chimps who blow there own engines regular think they know more and actually still get trusted ..So please stay away
Old 18-07-2005, 06:50 PM
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What would YOU be happy with?
Old 18-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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i really wouldnt know what too say,,, i guess it would be easyer in parts too sell
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I would be happy with the going price for a properly put together engine of this spec...as that is what it is.
Old 18-07-2005, 06:55 PM
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maybe not in the same league, but i sold my freshly rebuilt engine done 2k or so for 2k i think, now the main selling point obviously the rebuild but the guy checked all the paperwork and even gave Rob and steve a call to check things out,

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...obviously discount for not being proven.....and no labour charges to build as my time is free....its all there...just got to find an enthusiastic home!
Old 18-07-2005, 06:57 PM
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ebay
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...dont do ebay...rather keep it..lol
Old 18-07-2005, 06:58 PM
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ebay it i thought some of your questions were retarded
wait till the ebay massive start hounding you with theirs
Old 18-07-2005, 07:01 PM
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to be honest, and this isnt a dig at anyone on PF, when i broke my saff i sold very few parts on here, basically everyone wanted things for nowt,
Old 18-07-2005, 07:02 PM
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phil ya will get alot for the head and then the bottomend has gotta be worth around 2k and then the turbo ect

why ya not finishing it then, ive not had time to be on here much this month so sorry if i missed it
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b19bal...one word FERRARI

Gra i know what you mean.....

How much does a std rebuild cost?
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to be honest, and this isnt a dig at anyone on PF, when i broke my saff i sold very few parts on here, basically everyone wanted things for nowt,
and some wanted you to pay the postage aswell
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How much does a std rebuild cost?
tough one but the parts just to take the engine apart and not touch the bearings are 400 quid

bearings are 230ish, pump you know about ( cheers again ), then the pistons, machining and the tea bags and plasters ( the cossie blocks are fooking sharp inside aint they )

gets to be even more if ya discover the bearings aint the fault but the rods are a tiny bit bent
Old 18-07-2005, 07:35 PM
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mine was a standard rebuild, i holed a piston lol, and it cost circa 3k
Old 18-07-2005, 07:40 PM
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4k?
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Ryan if a std rebuild is 3k not including turbo inlet etc etc etc etc etc how can it be worth 4k? ...plus i suspect the 3k rebuild is basically rebuilding your OWN engine...this is NON exchange!!!

Although saying that....it cost me around 6.5k to get everything...so i guess Ł5.5k is realistic!
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i'd say that was a fair price phil
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basically phill, for anyone that wants peice of mind there going to strip it down anyway, so certain things are going to have to be bought again.

so yeah i guess 4-5k for everything is pretty reasonable

hhmmmmm, things are starting to ponder over in my head.
Old 18-07-2005, 08:24 PM
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agree with Ryan.

Without you thinking im having a go phil, i really think anyone who buys it will definatley strip it and build it again for peice of mind!

ebay it
Old 18-07-2005, 08:28 PM
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Well...guess what..i wont be selling it then!!!

Cant beleive anyone would strip it after all the hard work it took to get this far!!!!Total disrespect......as if 5.5k aint cheap enuff
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No bullshit here [hil, if i bought and engine say off someone on here who was breaking there car...Harvey gibbs for example had built it 5k ago...i would get it refreshed before it went in the car.... It aint a dig directly at you...
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i wouldn't
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
i wouldn't
but your weird anyway
Old 18-07-2005, 08:38 PM
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people look at things in different ways lee
if all the parts came to Ł6.5k and i bought it complete for Ł5k all built up then personally i think i would be getting a bargain
all jokes aside i would be happy enough that phil built up the engine correctly
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all jokes aside i would be happy enough that phil built up the engine correctly

toooo true

i just aint got 5k unless i sell the rest of me cossie and a few other things
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i disagree pops, you pay the extra money for the legal guarantees you get when buying something off a trader...

buying the same thing for a similar price privately, especially of someone as "reliable" as phil (and no im not digging your business, just your personality) would see like bad value for money imho.
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
people look at things in different ways lee
if all the parts came to Ł6.5k and i bought it complete for Ł5k all built up then personally i think i would be getting a bargain
all jokes aside i would be happy enough that phil built up the engine correctly
well, i admire your trust in phil. As stated, unless minty fresh i wouldnt put the engine in even built by a Pro....

i Do belive phil has put it together well, and it would no doubt make the figures. But, if it went bang i would fuck myself for not getting it donr again! As said, peice of mind n all that
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jim the parts are 6500k, its phils car to never been out the garage and no engine of that spec has a garantee, hes also built a few other engines and has free advice from lots of respected tuners that he gets along with in the real world

its also a fooking pinto engine that aiont that hard to build if ya take ya time
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it could go bang even if a pro built it lee
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pops, yes but if it went bang and a pro built it you have some legal standing with regards to getting it sorted (even tho 9/10 its not easy getting anythng)

phil would have no legal obligation to do f**k all if it went wrong
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Originally Posted by POPEYE
it could go bang even if a pro built it lee
course it could..not disputing the fact. But, i would know it wasnt Phil, and wouldnt be throwing the blame at him, or myself. If it went bang, id expect whover built it to strip it, and if it was a mechanical fault not a ignition or fuelling fault, id expect it built again as it was their fook up... I wouldnt knock on phils door expecting this!
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.much does it cost to get engine dynoed phil? maybe then someone will more as its proven i know dyno time will be dear but it may add alot more value to engine
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no chance of getting a refund or fixing from any tuner if it goes bang, what ya get is peace of mind, unfortunatly theres sooooo many not so skilled people about i woul rather a competant person work on my car who has a passion as a hobby to do it and not a way to pay the bills, even big tuners have horror stories , some aint even there fault too
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I'll give ya 2k Phil
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Originally Posted by b19bal
no chance of getting a refund or fixing from any tuner if it goes bang, what ya get is peace of mind, unfortunatly theres sooooo many not so skilled people about i woul rather a competant person work on my car who has a passion as a hobby to do it and not a way to pay the bills, even big tuners have horror stories , some aint even there fault too
I know who i would get to refresh it, and i know if it was thier fault they would redo it
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lee os that a personal reason or a general mechanic and are you totally sure considering the parts are 6500k to buy

for most members of the public no tuner garantees a engine that they aint suplied the parts for
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IT aint a tuner Ginge!

Saying nowt else on the matter either. It doesnt matter if 10,000 people say they wouldnt refresh it...I WOULD. end of
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buying the same thing for a similar price privately, especially of someone as "reliable" as phil (and no im not digging your business, just your personality)


So what has an internet personality got to do with an engine? ...Oh sorry i understand You think the net represents real life...like if he acts one way on the net he must be like that full stop ..my name aint Chip!!!!!!!..I am someone that could meet the mother
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you leave my mum out of tis phil


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