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Old 22-06-2004, 09:57 PM
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Default Converting 3dr to 4x4?

whats needed and how much work is involved?

are there any bodywork issues with clearance for the box etc?

any more info at all?

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Old 22-06-2004, 10:15 PM
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The main things you have to do for converting to 4 x 4, the front chasis legs need half moons cut into them to allow the clearance of the driveshafts. Also the tunnel needs replaced or modified to allow for the drop gear casing or transfer box! the rest more or less bolts on the diff ratios allow you to run the 7.5" rear diff along with the 4x4 front diff. but you will need the gearbox, front diff, front engine craddle, front drive shafts, both hubs then your front suspension needs changed there is a fair bit of work mate, my project car is just about finished and has been off the road now for 10 months but should be good when finished!

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Originally Posted by Nick500
The main things you have to do for converting to 4 x 4, the front chasis legs need half moons cut into them to allow the clearance of the driveshafts.
I don't recall seing anything cut out of my front chasis rails but will look tommorow and confirm!
Old 22-06-2004, 10:26 PM
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I don't recall seing anything cut out of my front chasis rails but will look tommorow and confirm!
Spadgeroo, IIRC the cut outs were already 'stamped' into the shells/chassis' (they probably thought about a 4wd 3dr from the off), so it's probably such a tidy job that you just don't notice it.
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I don't recall seing anything cut out of my front chasis rails but will look tommorow and confirm![/quote]

I have cut them out to mirror the 4x4 chassis legs, as without them the clearance would be minimal.I would imagine they are cut a bit! you must have a different tunnel as well eh spadge?

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am doing one at the min as we speek
looking around £350 to do all the welding and paintin and stuff
thats with the modded gear box mount aswell
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Originally Posted by Nick500
I don't recall seing anything cut out of my front chasis rails but will look tommorow and confirm!
I have cut them out to mirror the 4x4 chassis legs, as without them the clearance would be minimal.I would imagine they are cut a bit! you must have a different tunnel as well eh spadge?

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The tunnel has been modified a little on the left of the drivers footwell.
A hole was made and then a new piece, with a curve to it, welded in to allow clearance for the transfer box!
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I should hopefully be making my XRTI 4x4 After my other Project is done.
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Ok I had a whole tunnel from the 4 x 4 welded in so as I could use the standard gearbox mount. same idea! Just out of curiosity have you beefed up anything apart from the gearbox to cope with the power you run?

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Old 22-06-2004, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
I should hopefully be making my XRTI 4x4 After my other Project is done.
why ? it will just make the car slower .
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Originally Posted by Nick500
Ok I had a whole tunnel from the 4 x 4 welded in so as I could use the standard gearbox mount. same idea! Just out of curiosity have you beefed up anything apart from the gearbox to cope with the power you run?

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Front diff is a ZF plated item using a Quaife thick casing
Rear diff is a standard 7.5 incher and will remain until i start to break them
Front driveshafts were replaced with brand new standard ones just to be on the safe side
Thats about it for now
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Cheers for the response guys

Doesnt sound like too much work actually - I had visions of the whole transmission tunnel needing modifying etc. I assume most of the bits are available from breakers at reasonable enough prices?

what are the limitations of the 4x4 transmission up to 400bhp? Is it daft money for a decent gearbox?
Old 22-06-2004, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by All4it
Originally Posted by Fastmaul
I should hopefully be making my XRTI 4x4 After my other Project is done.
why ? it will just make the car slower .
This is my everyday car, and in winter time here, I would be happy to have it 4x4!! and it'll be a cossie too!
Old 22-06-2004, 10:46 PM
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Sorry mate but 4 x 4 cossies are not that great in winter either!

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Originally Posted by Nick500
Sorry mate but 4 x 4 cossies are not that great in winter either!
??????????? Why?
Old 22-06-2004, 10:49 PM
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well up here in sunny scotland it snows alot in winter!!!! even my old subaru struggled in the snow!!

On saying that I know south of the border snow is rare! and when it arrives people scratch their heads and wonder what it is!

Old 22-06-2004, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick500
Sorry mate but 4 x 4 cossies are not that great in winter either!

I'm sure it beats our open diff that our XR's have..not even lsd, it's like one wheel drive!
Old 22-06-2004, 10:53 PM
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You want to tell me about snow? HAHHAHAHAHAHAH There isn't much snow in the UK anyway compered to what we have here, so I still don't know what is bad about 4x4 Cossies in snow. I did a few kilometers this winter and it was great fun and very easy.
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Thats true, would be better than that!

Old 22-06-2004, 10:56 PM
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The best thing in snow is a good driver In fact always good driver is the most important thing, than it can be 2WD, 4WD, 50HP or 500HP. Anyway Escos is fun to drive in snow (with proper winter wheels), I don't think Sierra will be much worse.
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XR4i to 4x4 conversion thread.

(Good pictures of tunnel conversion and bracket location)

http://forums.interford.co.uk/showth...threadid=35703



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Originally Posted by Billabong
I don't recall seing anything cut out of my front chasis rails but will look tommorow and confirm!
Spadgeroo, IIRC the cut outs were already 'stamped' into the shells/chassis' (they probably thought about a 4wd 3dr from the off), so it's probably such a tidy job that you just don't notice it.
a europian 3 door they made was 4x4 so thats is more than likely the reson the stamps are there
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