SPADGE

All very interesting if its true
I bought a brand new 200 block and gave him a brand new 4x4 head which he said went away to some foreign country (spain i think) to be ported to touring car spec and which cost me a grand just for the porting
Also i gave him 2 brand new cams, a bd 14 and 15 one of which was changed for a so called "special cam" and a further 200 quid given
As for the power output i watched it get dyno's by Ahmed and Harvey and still have it on video here and it made 517.9 hp
No shot peened rods and old tensioners is bollox i'm afraid as the tensioners were supplied and fitted that i do know and the rods were deffo shotpeened!!!

As for the engine not being re-built and being binned? I was there just over a month ago and watched them re-building the fookin thing! Using the same head,block etc...

angel45

then you were knocked m8 only reason the engine was purchased from you was on Harvey's say so, what does that say

SPADGE

A lot less than i did Dave less than 1500 miles before i sold it to him

SPADGE

It tells me that i need to have a chat with someone and will be doing just that

angel45

hi dave, fucked off with the whole thing really, but i've moved on, was a expensive mistake to make but am happy with the end result, just like to Big up Paul and all the crew @ Endinge advantages for all the work that was gone into the motor am well happy with the end result

Mike Rainbird

iTrader: (3)

The head was ported by Nick Waples who does / did all the Ford works heads for Mountune (even Paul can confirm that ).

Seems to be lots of conflicting information - the truth is out there somewhere .

DaveEscos

effe, mine will be on the road soon mate, well catch up then

Matty wants a Cossie

/\ is it yours then mate?
Nice!!

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

only if you find another 200bhp from somewhere Dave

cossymad

spadge wrote;
Ford sell them special ones off the shelf

angel45

I think you should nothing short of Highway robbery

DaveEscos

that is so true it makes me cry!


btw got the pics from the icap party at last. Totally shot away.. did you go in the end?

SPADGE

Really? Paul told me it was a bd 10 which had been re-profiled!
Please tell me the Ford part number for that particular cam

Mike Rainbird

iTrader: (3)

I think some people believe anything they are told .

Spadge,
You SAW the engine with your own eyes being put together . And I think you'll find it was a reprofiled BD8, so goes to show someone doesn't even know their cams .

This must be a really shit head then .

SPADGE

Yep i saw it getting built and have a few pics of my own to prove it

angel45

Just to get something clear,
Spadge you defiantly need to spoke to Harvey, Your engine spec and the engine that ended up on the car are not one and same then, as said before only bought your engine on Harvey say so, simply fact is You supplied the engine and Harvey fitted it I turned 9 fucking weeks later and picked the car up, so somewhere down the line something doesn’t add up, bottom line why would I spend all the money purchasing the engine, then spent a stupid amount of money tuning my car based on a engine spec that is non-existence ie bolt a GT35 to a engine with the wrong cams, standard con-rods and sub standard parts, etc and the world worse wiring, then bitch about it when it went wrong does that make any sense

Matty wants a Cossie

Angel45 - are you efe?

angel45

either that or i can read his mind

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Effe clearly something not right mate, but some 500bhp engines do use standard conrods...

Martins engines used to
Sean Bicknells
Bruce Reads
Think Kev Sharps as well.
*edited* to add Gaybirds 500bhp engine as well

All have seen 500bhp and some 600bhp with nos.

IF the engine was said to have had something else and they weren't on it then fair enough.

Really gutted for you mate.

Stavros

What about Dan/Montes engine, wasnt his scenario almost identical to this one?
Ie 500+bhp Harvey engine not half as good as the dynosheet etc etc shown it to be etc?

angel45

How you doing lee, hope you are doing well

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Still in one piece, bored though... if you want to cheer me up you could come down and take me out for a blast

You had the clutch done yet matey?

Ima-Racing500

I take it Paul has stripped the Spadge engine and confirmed the std rods,second hand tensioners,dodgy cam?...IF this is true someone needs a slap..ROFL.

Bare in mind an engine dynoed at 518bhp will have in car,after losses,approx 50 bhp less...plus its quite common to run less boost in car than on the dyno due to reliability......

angel45

clutch is next on the list mate, going to get Martin to sort that out when I get it back

DaveEscos

lee, ive told martin that he is to steal the pads from your 3 door and send then to me with my brakes as they fit perfectly

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Going up there this weekend, I will remind him for you. My car almost done so you could slip her right in

Ima, think about it a little harder... and then don't post.

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Yes, he just said yours were sticking 10mm out either end Dave!

Matty wants a Cossie

Where you from then fella, seen you in a few essex hot spots, thurrock, southend etc.

angel45

Spade you were @ EA when you were told about my rods not being shotpeened

DaveEscos

Anonymous

Interesting thread...........

So has Paul "cossie saviour" put his hands up at all to the engine failure or is he completely blaming SCS. I am not a fan of SCS but at the end of the day Harvey can build decent engines when he wants to. I reckon someone may be trying to cover up their own fook up!!LOL

SPADGE

Get your facts right matey! I was told one of them was bent and not that they hadn't been shot peened
I was also told that the fault with the engine wasn't anyones fault these things happen
A post earlier on in this thread made out that the whole engine was scrap which is not what i saw and heard on my visit to EA either
Effi are you sure you didn't have a big fook off turbo bolted to that engine and a re-map that fooked it

cossymad

interesting Dan......but I doubt it.
If it had been EA's fault, he would have said.....I know this

Racey

dont do it vikki!!!!

and for anyone that has been behind me in my cossie, it flames on it's own I havent got a kit!!!

cossymad

Jules I think that is not the case....as Lee has already covered that.
The engine was not GT35/40 'd up then thrashed sennseless, it let go when had it been the spec it should have been, it would have been fine.

SPADGE

How pray tell?

Anonymous

No matter what SCS may or may not have done (surprised we have not heard an official line from Harvey through Mike Yet!! ) THIS is what fooked the engine, so is that SCS fault or someone elses....

SPADGE

Ok so how many miles had it covered between it letting go and my selling it??

Ima-Racing500

I will have to intervene again..i am afraid ....BUT in all fairness a big bhp engine like this can just give up..no matter how few a miles...i mean even F1 engines go wrong..and they are supposed up to the job.

BUT and this is an educated guess ...the rod bent thru sheer power..and if it was a std rod then there is the answer...these are only really suitable for around 420ft/ib torque..and at 580 plus bhp the rev limit must have been higher along with the torque..so always gonna be disaster

So this engine was supposed to have shot peened rods...and didnt....(is there PROOF?)..if so you still aint got a leg to stand on unless Spadge is a proper trader in which case you can then expect money back for not getting what you were supposed to get!!!!If Spadge is innocent then SCS have swapped the rods....all unbeleivable...LOL.

cossymad

phil no-one has said anything about money back or shit like that, efe mearly stated the facts and that he was a little pissed off at the whole weirdness of it.
engine's, as you rightfully said, do let go and this is sometimes component failure or a cause unknown.
more importantly, Sometimes they also let go when they are pushed beyond the limits that they were built to, or pushed to the expected horsepower that they should have already had.
If you set a car up to run at say 34psi, when it's components are only good for 28, it will expire quite quickly.