Rippers

Need the help of the PF peeps again!

As per thread https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128255

Got up to step 4 but the engine wouldn't crank. The starter motor made a loud click then nothing
What do I do?? What up??

essexrsturbo

have'nt read the thread but loud clicking from starter normally means battery dead or draining to much from starter

Physio

Starter motor could be flocked mate - try banging it with a hammer (the starter motor & not the car pmsl) & see if that sorts it

Rippers

I belive the battery is ok and I backed up the battery with a remote power pack to see if it made a difference I'm sure there was enough power

Tony Ryan

Put an extra earth strap on engine to chassis , or at least from starter, sometimes works .

Šhatter Box

starter moter is fucked buy a new one

Rippers

Thinking about it the battery has been moved to the inside of the car and the earth strip is bolted to the chassis could it be the earth isn't that great?

Rippers

Was told the starter wasn't that old? might beat it with a hammer tomorrow aswell

Lee_R21Turbo

iTrader: (1)

I know it sounds stupid but make sure that the main connections to the starter are on tight.

Also make sure that the connections to the battery are on tight.

Rippers

I'll give it a try and check all the wiring again. Everything else seemed ok, lights etc

essexrsturbo

before ya batter it to death try earthing it properly

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Paul, your probably getting brassed off with me saying this - but thats how I run mine Never had any problems doing it like that.

What cable are you running and is the engine & gearbox grounded properly ?

Can you measure the voltage on the starter to see what it drops to on cranking (or clicking)

To prove the starter is okay remove it and wire it up manually with some hefty jump leads see if it spins and the solonoid is working okay.

Rippers

Right think I've sorted it... THINK!
I bought a new Red Top 40 tested all my earths, checked the wiring and a load of other things.
Finally followed NUTS RuS advise and took it off and tesed it with my power pack and the solinoid was poping out (hense the click) but it wasn't spinning So much for a fucking recon starter.
So where's the best place to get another Starter? do Ford bend you over for them?

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

So the main motor isn't spinning when wired direct ? Deffo dead then.

Just use a motor factors mate or dig out your yellow pages

Rippers

Yeah put the plus on the two larger connectors and then the minus on the small ground, sparked like a beaut and the solinoid shot out but din't spin

focusv8

Take it to somewhere like these for testing or repair, its where some motor factors and the trade would get theirs.

http://www.unit-exchange.co.uk/index.html

Dont know this place but I use a similar company local to me.

SimonT

Is that motorfactors still down corbeune road or what ever its called. i think its a road near cheshunt station. cant remember what its called for the life off me though!

Rippers

Yes mate Car spares Delamare Rd was my first thought to use them, but everythink electrical I've ever bought has broke
At least I have a warrenty so fuck it, probably get a quote from Fraud first

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Put the earth on the body of the starter (I use the mounting lug bolt hole) and the +ive on the big +ive in, then bridge the +ive across to the small one that fires the solonoid.

Did you see smoke with those sparks ?

Rippers

Right still at it!
Got another starter today, discovered some of the wiring was missing

Right I'm at the stage where as the wiring is sorted and tested, the starter is tested and working and so is the battery...phew!

When turning the the engine over it clicks and spins slightly, then stops, then spins slighty then stops and so on. Is this progress??

Stuck the battery on charge and will try again in the morning.

Any thing else I should be doing.

As an observation each time the the engine turns slighty the power wires move! is that right???

dannyblackpool

battery sounds flat now

vroooom ptssssh

power wires move when engine turns slightly? shouldnt do? lol

whack the starter a good un when its trying to turn, and also as said battery sounds drained now!

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

Hope im not too late - but those type of batterys only like a small trickle charge over a longish time period. Dont try and boost it - you will knacker it up.

Whip the plugs out - and then try spinning it over does it turn with ease ? If not then maybe you have an earthing problem on the engine or gearbox.