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Old 17-06-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Stage 1 or 3 chips, are newer ones better

Reason I ask, is that both our cars have been chipped at some point, stage 1 and stage 3.

Stage 1 is power engineering, stage 3 is chipmunk (?) or something like that.

Would there be much benefit in getting a more up to date chip from ahmed, karl, stu, etc... ?

I appreciate that the maps in the more recent chips may be as old as the ones we have, but I was wondering if there is much development going into these maps and whether there are any benefits in upgrading ?

I don't really want to go into a war of which is best, blah blah blah blah, just wondering from a technical point of view
Old 17-06-2005, 03:38 PM
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I dont beleive there have been any big advances, if both cars run nicely now, i wouldnt spend the money on that personally, i would sooner spend it lapping the valves in or fitting a new oil pump etc.

Live map of course is a different story though, and THAT is where the smart money goes on a "chip"
Old 17-06-2005, 04:06 PM
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Depends how old the chips are and if they were originally mapped for the old 98RON fuel or the latest 97RON.

You can't beat a live map though...
Old 17-06-2005, 04:06 PM
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Yeah live mappings wher its at if you ask me...

The car gets a custom map to how it performs with the bits fitted to that car, the problem with plug in jobbies is they are all set the same which might not be 100% for your car.
Old 17-06-2005, 06:23 PM
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chip i said i would lap the valves in

if ya want a up to date stage 3 chip from MSD then max has one for sale , thats for a stage 3 with T3 turbo and its about 3 months old, its L6 though
Old 17-06-2005, 06:35 PM
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I do hope its Ginge writting and not Nikki....

The stge 3 has a T34 so I guess its no good ? but thanks anyway.

I do want to take mine for a live map as soon as I can, i.e. once we have sorted everything else that had to be sorted and the wallet has been replenished!! She will get there in time....
Old 17-06-2005, 06:38 PM
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yeah its me nat
get a live map by stu as thats what i plan to do as soon as my engines back together

he can tweek little things for a quicker throttle pickup too
Old 17-06-2005, 06:55 PM
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Agreed on the live map thing, makes sense for a stage 3, but for my lil stage 1, no point

So I was wondering if a newer chip would improve driveability, economy, etc...
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Phewww... got me worried for a minute!!

As I said, the car will get there.... in due time....
Old 17-06-2005, 06:58 PM
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grag depends on the chip

my old chip wal killing me on fuel

what chip you got in it
Old 17-06-2005, 07:02 PM
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Power Engineering in the 4x4 stage 1
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should be fine then, just get someone with a afr gauge to test it on a drive

aslong as the fueling is spot on dont worry about it


i still think you need to get a real power car and not a girly power car like a stage 1 cossie, but then it will still be a girly 4x4 cossie but faster
Old 17-06-2005, 07:12 PM
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Get off Ginge, it's stage 1 cos I want to use it every day.

I'd rather have a girlie 4x4 every day on the road than a manly 2wd every day in the workshop

Oh, and I have a manly 2wd for those occasions when my southernmost brain takes control
Old 17-06-2005, 07:21 PM
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good reply old granny driver

but then the question is got a daily runabout but a saab turbo , much nicer car imo and dont have to worry about it being nicked too

can ya guess what im thinking of buying
Old 17-06-2005, 07:25 PM
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Ginge, the Saab is just in case both cossies are broken, even stg 1 4x4's throw a wobbly from time to time
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you actually own a saab

i just said it as i was thinking of buying a saab as a daily runner for my new job
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I do ginge, a 9.5 2.0LPT, and slippers

No pipe though.

Parts are VERY expensive though, you think cossie parts are expensive... try Saab...
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Parts are VERY expensive though, you think cossie parts are expensive... try Saab...

well i hope to gain contacts with saab in my new job
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Let me know how you get on
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if you are after a new stage 1 chip, talk to Karl about a gunship conversion for it (stupid name but good principle, lol)
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