what sort of bhp have the new M3 BMW
13-05-2005, 06:24 PM
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what sort of bhp have the new M3 BMW
The new shape ones as i have just had a burn up with one and it couldnt get near me then i let it over take and we had another go and i couldnt catch him but he wasnt puling away just keeped it the same but i bottled it at 140. Not sure weather it was an M3 evo or not?
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13-05-2005, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt @ CAE
Actually I would say that are a pretty slow car; the reason being I had a bit of a go with one which belongs to a mate - it was a convertible so slightly heavier and slightly slower than a tin top. My 3dr at the time was totally standard, the M3 could barley pull away from 30 to 50 after that (until we run out of road) the Cossie was creeping past very slowly. In the grand scale of things a standard 3dr's performance is piss poor but pretty much on a par with a new M3. The M3 is an awesome car though, so much so I nearly bought one but ended up going for an e39 M5.
If you’re comparing the M3 with a majority of other standard road cars then yes, it's a damn fast and very capable car, which also highlights how quick the Cossie was nearly 20 odd years ago and even in standard form still is today.
If you’re comparing the M3 with a majority of other standard road cars then yes, it's a damn fast and very capable car, which also highlights how quick the Cossie was nearly 20 odd years ago and even in standard form still is today.
if your talkin about the same car, the new shape m3! convertable or not would piss on a std 3dr, and 30-50 aint much of a test, that would only take about 1 1/2 seconds, i raced one in my 330 saf and there was tiny amount in it so theres no way you could do the same with 130bhp less 
the m3 either wasnt tryin, the road was crap so any gti would have been the same , or your car was a lot faster than std
13-05-2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Escy
i think there torque figure is well down compared to the BHP. they aren't as quick as the 343 suggests.
155 top speed limited and they do the 1/4 mile in mid 12 seconds which is the same as my mates 393bhp 4x4 saff so if you think that aint quick for a car straight outa the box you must be mad, especialy when you need a 400bhp 4x4 saff to match it down the 1/4 mile
13-05-2005, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Well the DB9 I raced last week was surprised 
a fookin 360 would get a suprise never mind a lump o lardy db9 
13-05-2005, 09:26 PM
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Absolutely fpmsl a keeping with one in a standard cossie 
Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked
winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
13-05-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JAP CRAP
Absolutely fpmsl a keeping with one in a standard cossie Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked
winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
they are fast as fook and no way would a stg 1 keep up never mind a std one as already said
13-05-2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by the strut brace
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Well the DB9 I raced last week was surprised
a fookin 360 would get a suprise never mind a lump o lardy db9 Love me M3 Its so much faster than I ever thought it would be, not had any probs with any car I raced yet, I had a RS6 the other day and we where equal the whole way, my mates chipped his and I wanna compare to see if its worth it!
13-05-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Originally Posted by the strut brace
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
Well the DB9 I raced last week was surprised
a fookin 360 would get a suprise never mind a lump o lardy db9 Love me M3 Its so much faster than I ever thought it would be, not had any probs with any car I raced yet, I had a RS6 the other day and we where equal the whole way, my mates chipped his and I wanna compare to see if its worth it!
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According to www.bm3w.co.uk the fastest an E46 M3 can quartermile in is 13.1/13.2
The Official BMW 0-62 is 5.2 and it feels like it!
The Official BMW 0-62 is 5.2 and it feels like it!
14-05-2005, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by the strut brace
Originally Posted by Escy
i think there torque figure is well down compared to the BHP. they aren't as quick as the 343 suggests.
155 top speed limited and they do the 1/4 mile in mid 12 seconds which is the same as my mates 393bhp 4x4 saff so if you think that aint quick for a car straight outa the box you must be mad, especialy when you need a 400bhp 4x4 saff to match it down the 1/4 mile
they can manage mid 5 second 0-60's, mid 13's on the 1/4 mile. a stage 3 S13 200SX (300bhp) will be able to match those times. hence, why i said their torque figure doesn't match their bhp figure.
i'm not saying they are not fast, simply they aren't as quick as you'd think for the power they have.
15-05-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JAP CRAP
Absolutely fpmsl a keeping with one in a standard cossie Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked
winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
Advise your mate to take it back, it must be fucked winds me up everyone saying they piss them in their stage 1 cos's, rs turbo's etc. I know smit raced one in his stage 3+ cossie the other week and I think the m3 beat him...
My mate had an e36 m3 evo convertible and that didnt seem mega fast. raced him in my old 210bhp honda and he beat me, just not by too much, raced a new shape one in the honda and he made me look like a fuck me milk float
I was spanking my car HARD and the M3 still won...wasn't happy......
15-05-2005, 04:31 PM
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Always funny when people compare cars they only talk about BHP/torque figures, quartermile times and 0-60 times....
A BMW M3 not as quick as you would expect from the BHP figures?
Well unless it's being driven by an idiot you'd have a very hard time indeed getting past on any given B-road in your tuned 200SX, Cos or whatever sorta shitheap you care to try! It's about the whole package and the M3 is a GOOD package...
A BMW M3 not as quick as you would expect from the BHP figures?
Well unless it's being driven by an idiot you'd have a very hard time indeed getting past on any given B-road in your tuned 200SX, Cos or whatever sorta shitheap you care to try! It's about the whole package and the M3 is a GOOD package...
15-05-2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt @ CAE
Originally Posted by the strut brace
sorry mate but thats if your talkin about the same car, the new shape m3! convertable or not would piss on a std 3dr, and 30-50 aint much of a test, that would only take about 1 1/2 seconds, i raced one in my 330 saf and there was tiny amount in it so theres no way you could do the same with 130bhp less the m3 either wasnt tryin, the road was crap so any gti would have been the same , or your car was a lot faster than std
if your talkin about the same car, the new shape m3! convertable or not would piss on a std 3dr, and 30-50 aint much of a test, that would only take about 1 1/2 seconds, i raced one in my 330 saf and there was tiny amount in it so theres no way you could do the same with 130bhp less the m3 either wasnt tryin, the road was crap so any gti would have been the same , or your car was a lot faster than std 
I was referring to the e36 and not the later e46 m3, hence my reference to the e39 m5 which is what I would class as being from the same era as the e36 m3. However your figures are IMO a little out; mid 12 seconds down the 1/4 is optimistic for even an e46 13.5 / 13.4 is much more like it, as is 5.5seconds 0-60. Also I’m assuming my 3dr is standard (it was certainly sold as that!) It’s the first Cosworth I’ve owned so have nothing to compare it with as such. The only rr (Circuit Motors at Castle Combe) info I have for it is 188bhp at the wheels, does that sounds right for a standard Cossie? Would have though transmission loss would mean it would be slightly less? 160 or so?