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Old 05-05-2005, 08:37 AM
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Default Scorpio Auto box- problem updated

Dad just got a m plate Scorpio Ultima estate. Its a 2.0 16v (zetec??) . Basically reverse packed up. ANy ideas how much and where to get an auto box for it.


any help appreciated cheers
Old 05-05-2005, 08:42 AM
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Its a I4 engine iirc... not a zetec or sigma.

The auto boxes are always cack!

Yellow pages is the best place to look for your local autobox place, but its not cheap!

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Old 05-05-2005, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
Its a I4 engine iirc... not a zetec or sigma.

The auto boxes are always cack!

Yellow pages is the best place to look for your local autobox place, but its not cheap!

Alex
Cheers, thought it looked like an I4 rs2000 engine but then on an m plate i thought theyd have used zetec .

How much is not cheap i need the cheapest possible.

cheers
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From memory these are like hens teeth, you'd be better off getting the old one repaired as it might work out cheaper ...

Heres a few links to get you started in the right direction:

http://www.ukcar.com/road_tests/Ford/scorpio/

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/autotrans.htm

http://www.247spares.co.uk/classifie...lect_make=FORD

http://www.findagearbox.co.uk/

http://google.find-a-part.com/

I'm not sure how useful the links are going to be but you've nowt to loose ....
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Ultima's don't run a 2.0 zetec unit. Auto boxes are available for these at reasonable cost - I know because I've just done one which was sourced through 'Ford only breakers' in Swindon (will get you the telephone number a little later) for Ł200 inc. VAT + delivery.

They aren't a very strong box anyway and suffer with common failures around the 100k mark, either lose reverse or the O/D and sensors fail and won't shift up and down properly. It's a crap job to do as well so it's not a quick or easy job. I wouldn't waste my money on a rebuild as you'll probably end up spending well in excess of Ł300 (and that's if YOU take the box out) unless you use a reputable transmission specialist who won't charge you for things that haven't been done.

Most people will say, 'mate it's an auto, they're really complicated and we don't often do them so it's going to cost you'
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Nath - you never guessed who came out to play last night??!? Loz! And he had more than one pint LOL
Old 05-05-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon
Nath - you never guessed who came out to play last night??!? Loz! And he had more than one pint LOL
I'm shocked... but did you get your tool box as I still havent got my battery
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This box has a self-protect function when the oil level gets low.......
It locks out reverse!
Check / top up the oil level before you go buying a box.
Engine running in Park
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Nope - I think there's as much chance of that happening as my lottery numbers coming in on saturday! He's about as useful as a dead slothe PMSL.

He did however spend four hours telling me how to remove a steering wheel from a mondeo without detonating the airbag ha ha. Man, he can tell a story!
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Originally Posted by Dragon
He did however spend four hours telling me how to remove a steering wheel from a mondeo without detonating the airbag ha ha. Man, he can tell a story!
Just 4? Hes loosing his touch
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Originally Posted by gearboxman
This box has a self-protect function when the oil level gets low.......
It locks out reverse!
Check / top up the oil level before you go buying a box.
Engine running in Park
Cheers Bernie fingers crossed that will sort it. If so i owe you a big drink Need to speak to you bout my stg2 box soon aswell but ill give you a call .


And cheers to everyone else been really helpfull
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He did however spend four hours telling me how to remove a steering wheel from a mondeo without detonating the airbag ha ha. Man, he can tell a story!
Just 4? Hes loosing his touch
No, 4 hours was the first time he told me
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Originally Posted by gearboxman
This box has a self-protect function when the oil level gets low.......
It locks out reverse!
Check / top up the oil level before you go buying a box.
Engine running in Park
Thats handy to know

Good luck in it just been low on fluid Sunil
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Originally Posted by Dragon
Originally Posted by Nath
Originally Posted by Dragon
He did however spend four hours telling me how to remove a steering wheel from a mondeo without detonating the airbag ha ha. Man, he can tell a story!
Just 4? Hes loosing his touch
No, 4 hours was the first time he told me
Oh eck!!! I best get some batteries to run my walkman for 4 hours to be on the safe side then ..jump on msn Jim
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Old 06-05-2005, 08:18 AM
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Got a bit more to add to this now. Reverse was working when dad left the auction but wasnt woeking when he got back. Was also working yesterday after the car had been sat all day. But after a bit of run stopped working again. Seems to be enough oil. Any ideas????
Old 06-05-2005, 10:44 AM
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:59 AM
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Are you checking the oil level correctly - as bernie says above - to check it with the engine running in park? That's a bit unusual, so don't want you to be checking it wrong
Old 06-05-2005, 11:16 AM
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Also, you're meant to go up and down the box, P to 1 then back again 3 times. I had to do that on my old 24v to check the gearbox oil.

on the older boxes, it used to lose drive rather than reverse as well, odd eh?

i guess the box you're using is an ALD4e as well (does it have an E and an S button near the selector?)
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na i didnt check it while it was running . Will re check tonight. Cheers
Old 06-05-2005, 04:28 PM
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sounds like low oil...

here's hopeing!

Alex
Old 06-05-2005, 05:54 PM
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more than likely the oil. deffo worth checking, might save ya a few quid.

if's it brown on the dipstick, it needs doing. should be a cherry red colour.

look for the Granada Enthusiasts forum, go to the MK3 section, and look for the "Common problems" thread I created. Takes you through how to do it.
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I have a box for you . You have pm
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