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Old 28-04-2005, 10:15 PM
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Right just been looking at some derv cars and lets face it, do you think its the future?

As im looking at the Audi A8 Derv. as stand has about 260bhp and 479lbf of torque and is limited to 155mph! and still gives u 30mpg! pmsl

Quick chip up at stu's and even more power

So is there going to be a point when buying a petrol car going to be pointless?

TBH i dont think i would buy another petrol car agian unless it was for track etc or a show car
Old 28-04-2005, 10:17 PM
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thats why diesel price has rocketed at the petrol stations m8, because they have improved SOOO much and lots more people are buying them, so the fooking government tax the fuel more.


its a fookin no-win situation ,, but I would look at a diesel if i was buying a NEW car
Old 28-04-2005, 10:19 PM
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well the new golf gdti or somink like that is the fooking tits , me cousin has one and he knows fook all about engines, he bought it as he has a diesel fuel car for his company van and robs the fuel

fooking thing moves, dont rev that well though but pissed all over my escort cabrio big time , i knew the roads too

defo the way forward , i tried to invent the first diesel cossie a few months ago but they dont seem to work the same way
Old 28-04-2005, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
i tried to invent the first diesel cossie a few months ago but they dont seem to work the same way
that was funny
Old 28-04-2005, 10:30 PM
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Old 28-04-2005, 10:31 PM
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PMSL @ Ginge

Andy just said dont forget the VW V10 Dervs
Old 28-04-2005, 10:43 PM
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yeah Diesel is the bollox, i got a rover (bubble shape) 2.0 TDI, the thing just goes like shit off a chrome shovel, can hit redline in 3rd and will spin in second, thing is so loose. i won't get rid cos it simply shifts.

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can hit redline in 3rd
4500rpm then , thats when my cossie comes on boost

Old 28-04-2005, 10:52 PM
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i will get a pic next time of the rev counter, which will probably be the time it blows up.
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Originally Posted by b19bal
can hit redline in 3rd
4500rpm then , thats when my cossie comes on boost

U got some serious lag then cos mine comes on boost 3400ish

My Derv Revs to 5k but who cares it always goes like fook but nothing compared to the GErman stormers
Old 28-04-2005, 10:59 PM
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A Derv 2nd in the Gumball say's a lot for the old smoke machines
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rhys ots cause i got proper cams in mine and a ported head

ok mine comes on full boost at 3800 but feels like forever
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Originally Posted by B8
A Derv 2nd in the Gumball say's a lot for the old smoke machines
less pit stops thats why

that should be a F1 trick. V10 derv and no pitstops needed
Old 29-04-2005, 12:13 AM
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bmw 535d

fast as fook ............ for a diesel . 272bhp and 415 lb/ft.

my vauxhall combo is slow as fook though
Old 29-04-2005, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
ok mine comes on full boost at 3800 but feels like forever
imagine what its like having over 10psi then

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Derv rocks!
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the only problem is, before dervs used to be as strong as anything (had a A reg escort derv van for a while, the car was falling apart around the engine )

But now, with them being higher reving (my dads merc vito about 3 years old revs to 6k) turbos getting more and more power from them, they are starting to wear just as quick as petrol engines.
Old 29-04-2005, 01:48 AM
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The new BMW 3.5 litre diesel has an alloy block and twin turbos, more torque than the M5
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Originally Posted by b19bal
rhys ots cause i got proper cams in mine and a ported head
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Ginge and you saying i havent got that to go 400bhp


Alloy block

Twin trbo Derv is the only way forward Can see track day cars soon converting
Old 29-04-2005, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil
The new BMW 3.5 litre diesel has an alloy block and twin turbos, more torque than the M5
Its a 3 litre

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lol wish diesel was way forward, got my shitsubishi warrior chipped and now does...........................16mpg on fookin derv. Thats why its going as id rather have 400bhp petrol engine infront of me and petrol is cheaper than dieasel now
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i don't think that it is the way forward, due to the lower calorific value of diesel and the sooty emmissions.

there are plenty of developments going on in the petrol world right now that will see major improvements. variable compression ratio, electronically operated valves, direct fuel injection, an engine that can run as either 2 or 4 stroke......

the list goes on and imo will see petrol engines remaining the drivers choice.
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definitely petrol reasons being:
-diesels are only good for low down torque top end is shite obviusly theyre are exceptions but thats wot you get with a bigger engine.
-diesels black smoke like fook and sound like tractors
-the high performance diesels cost alot eg the gold gttdi 150 is 10k plus wouldt you rather by the 1.8T?????
-petrols will always be more tunable put it this way you are never going to get a porche 911 TD
So petrol all the way,
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rhys i never knew ya had 400bhp

in that case im lost why mines soooo laggy, but next time i meet ya id like to go for a passenger ride in ya taxi to compare


diesel is the way forward untill they put the price of it up, what about high performace LPG, why dont people work on that
Old 29-04-2005, 11:52 AM
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My A6 1.9 Tdi chipped by SCC will do 131.7mph + thats on My sat nav so pretty bloody accurate

The speedo was well over 140mph though

And still got 42mpg the average i get is around 48mpg or when driving steady to work and back around 52mpg

Diesel rocks and i only paid peanuts for the car too

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