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Old 17-10-2021, 02:52 PM
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Not been on here for a while but have been watching the ones that have been doing the round for sale recently, has anyone actually seen any sell for the mid to high 20’s as the just keep getting re-listed?

In my opinion I can’t see them being worth more than 15 to 20G

what’s your views?
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Originally Posted by tosh
Not been on here for a while but have been watching the ones that have been doing the round for sale recently, has anyone actually seen any sell for the mid to high 20’s as the just keep getting re-listed?

In my opinion I can’t see them being worth more than 15 to 20G

what’s your views?
depends on the car the ones that are on for ever are still for sale for a reasion most need work like paint or engine etc so them been 20/25k who would pay it? your lookn at 6k to paint out now prop etc
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m mate sold his 8ok stage one ,nice solid honest flint grey with leather for 35k last week.now I'm in Ireland so that was euros but still a good price for a saff
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Prices for classic cars - especially all the top models from all manufacturers - went through the roof during the last 5+ years. While some cars (with big racing history and small numbers like Gr. B homologation cars or DTM cars) were already expensive before and didn't get that much more expensive (like a E30 BMW M3 or a late G-Model 911 Carrera) the prices asked for other cars is ridiculous sometimes. And we're talking about cars that were not so popular before. Like a RWD Sapphire Cosworth, a MK2 XR2 (although in Germany nearly all want a MK1 Fiesta), MK3/4 Escort XR3i, Sierra XR4i etc.

Problem is there's too many people out there who don't know what to do with their money and fancy a classic car to play with the other "kids".
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See a saff up for 25k on facebook a few weeks ago, then see it pop up again posted by the new owner.

And a few days ago a delivery driver posted up a saff, saying nice car owner just paid 40K ( tho i think he might have been trolling or lied to ) , tho this saff was up for 25k in december 2020 and sold back then

both just over 100k on the clocks and modded, so not low milage , standard collectors jobs

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Originally Posted by BIG LEE
depends on the car the ones that are on for ever are still for sale for a reasion most need work like paint or engine etc so them been 20/25k who would pay it? your lookn at 6k to paint out now prop etc
I payed 7G for a bare metal respray but that was with no bodywork needed, but would never expect to get that money back I just don’t see how the can be worth the mid to high 20’s even in top condition, they are like houses as you know you can spend & spend on upgrades - modifications but if you overstep the market value you’ve lost some of that money, all you do is make it more saleable.
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Originally Posted by james kiely
m mate sold his 8ok stage one ,nice solid honest flint grey with leather for 35k last week.now I'm in Ireland so that was euros but still a good price for a saff
was that on eBay?

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Originally Posted by XR2
Prices for classic cars - especially all the top models from all manufacturers - went through the roof during the last 5+ years. While some cars (with big racing history and small numbers like Gr. B homologation cars or DTM cars) were already expensive before and didn't get that much more expensive (like a E30 BMW M3 or a late G-Model 911 Carrera) the prices asked for other cars is ridiculous sometimes. And we're talking about cars that were not so popular before. Like a RWD Sapphire Cosworth, a MK2 XR2 (although in Germany nearly all want a MK1 Fiesta), MK3/4 Escort XR3i, Sierra XR4i etc.

Problem is there's too many people out there who don't know what to do with their money and fancy a classic car to play with the other "kids".
I hope to find one of those people who don’t know what to do with there money if I ever sell!
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Not a saff, but a modern ford , yep low mileage and very clean, but thats around 8k with fees https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/...o-st220-estate

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Originally Posted by Fil
Not a saff, but a modern ford , yep low mileage and very clean, but thats around 8k with fees https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/...o-st220-estate
Looked like a very good car with low mileage. I think it was sold for a fair price.
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Originally Posted by XR2
Prices for classic cars - especially all the top models from all manufacturers - went through the roof during the last 5+ years. While some cars (with big racing history and small numbers like Gr. B homologation cars or DTM cars) were already expensive before and didn't get that much more expensive (like a E30 BMW M3 or a late G-Model 911 Carrera) the prices asked for other cars is ridiculous sometimes. And we're talking about cars that were not so popular before. Like a RWD Sapphire Cosworth, a MK2 XR2 (although in Germany nearly all want a MK1 Fiesta), MK3/4 Escort XR3i, Sierra XR4i etc.

Problem is there's too many people out there who don't know what to do with their money and fancy a classic car to play with the other "kids".
In the latest Classic Ford magazine there is a 1971 Escort RS 1600 Escort up for £84,995!!!
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Originally Posted by tosh
was that on eBay?

no mate ,just a private sale.it wasn't advertised
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With the low numbers of Sierra cosworths built and the cult following they had and still have I can only see the prices going up for the good ones that remain

If anyone had a genuine 1 owner standard mint very low miler you can guarantee it would fetch ridiculous money now
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My own personal story I couldn't afford a high spec Cossie like rods back in the 90s and early 2000s, but it was something I very much wanted a stage 3 saph was what opened my eyes to a proper fast car in the 90s

As life goes on we get older and if we get wealthier we can then relive that dream later in life, this I think plays a big part in the prices rising

Once us Cossie generation shall we say all get old and push up daisies I guess they might well be worth sod all again 🤣😂
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
My own personal story I couldn't afford a high spec Cossie like rods back in the 90s and early 2000s, but it was something I very much wanted a stage 3 saph was what opened my eyes to a proper fast car in the 90s

As life goes on we get older and if we get wealthier we can then relive that dream later in life, this I think plays a big part in the prices rising

Once us Cossie generation shall we say all get old and push up daisies I guess they might well be worth sod all again 🤣😂
Exacty what you said. A old friend of mine has some triumph bike that he’s had for 50+ years at one time it was worth over £6k and now around £1k as nobody alive is that interested in it. About 20 years ago he told me the same would happen to my S2, as people get older and have more disposable income they want what they couldn’t afford when they were younger. Obviously there are exceptions for real sought after stuff that stays expensive.
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i think cosworths will outlive us all and will always have a following due to their status .if you look at mk1 lotus cortinas for example
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Originally Posted by james kiely
i think cosworths will outlive us all and will always have a following due to their status .if you look at mk1 lotus cortinas for example
At any shows that I take my 2wd Saff to I get a constant flow of people of all ages that are interested in it. I don't think their appeal is getting less as they get older, I would say the opposite!
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
At any shows that I take my 2wd Saff to I get a constant flow of people of all ages that are interested in it. I don't think their appeal is getting less as they get older, I would say the opposite!
Im sure that something went on at goodwood due to that issue, the most sucsessful race car of all time not being classic enough and not allowed , as owners complained about them taking the attention away from there million pound + historic race classics


( i may be completely wrong , but Im sure i read about it somewhere )
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Just looking through old mags - fookinell - £2800 for a cossy looool - 2006 ! what de hell was i thinking lol
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I remember paying 3200 for mine about 20 years ago lol I was very young and stretched myself to buy it. I just paid more than that for the exhaust system on the thing lol
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I remember paying 3200 for mine about 20 years ago lol I was very young and stretched myself to buy it. I just paid more than that for the exhaust system on the thing lol
Must be one special exhaust made out of ultralight unobtanium.
Is it full Ti or other out of interest?
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Originally Posted by Mad_Mat
Must be one special exhaust made out of ultralight unobtanium.
Is it full Ti or other out of interest?
stainless all v banded. 3.5 inch turbo back. External waste gate into down pipe. Proper 3.5 inch silencers
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what make boxes did you use andy?
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what make boxes did you use andy?
I’m not sure who made them. They had to be made up as it wasn’t something they had on the shelf
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I remember paying 3200 for mine about 20 years ago lol I was very young and stretched myself to buy it. I just paid more than that for the exhaust system on the thing lol
New new exhaust system was seriously more than that!?
no way??!

Cheers Paul
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Originally Posted by turbotrev
New new exhaust system was seriously more than that!?
no way??!

Cheers Paul
Not many places about that do that sort of work. I’m told the 3.5 inch tube massively ups the price as well. Other quote I had from a place recommended was about the same as well
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Originally Posted by turbotrev
New new exhaust system was seriously more than that!?
no way??!

Cheers Paul
A couple of years ago I had a new stainless steel custom made centre silencer box made, oval shape to give better ground clearance than the usual round shaped one as the car is quite low. Cost me £680, so I can see a complete system custom made would cost a lot. My car was there all day as there was nothing off the shelf that they could use. It is a skilled job to custom make an exhaust system and that will be reflected in the price.
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My son no2 made this for son no1 turbo intergra it cost around £800 in material. 3.5” working on the theory that the exhaust should be 1.5x the exducer size🤷‍♂️


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You have a clever Son!! Looks like a very neat job.
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A lad I know just bought a 2 owner E reg 2wd saph. With 45k miles on for 24k a few months back.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
A lad I know just bought a 2 owner E reg 2wd saph. With 45k miles on for 24k a few months back.
Thats my favourite look very nice car
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
A lad I know just bought a 2 owner E reg 2wd saph. With 45k miles on for 24k a few months back.

Is it totally standard glen ? Crazy to think I couldn't get £8k for my old one and broke it for parts instead !
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Totally standard except for a stainless steel exhaust. It mad to see the car cause its Totally standard and.
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It's got a few marks on it but it's a honest example which hasn't been messed about with.
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thats a beauty glenn
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
It's got a few marks on it but it's a honest example which hasn't been messed about with.
That's why it's worth such strong money, not much less than I paid for rods !
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I remember paying 3200 for mine about 20 years ago lol I was very young and stretched myself to buy it. I just paid more than that for the exhaust system on the thing lol
probably £500 in material lol
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
probably £500 in material lol
I doubt that lol the 3 silencers was more than that. Plus what can you do? Very few people do that work. Take is to top gear or there’s a guy at kwik fit who will have a go lol
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you paid around 24k for rods old cossie? bloody hell, i always wondered how much it went for, i was surprised a family member didn't want to keep and follow their family member legacy. Always followed the build on facebook and all i saw more thrown at it than i could earn
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Originally Posted by jcarpenter
you paid around 24k for rods old cossie? bloody hell, i always wondered how much it went for, i was surprised a family member didn't want to keep and follow their family member legacy. Always followed the build on facebook and all i saw more thrown at it than i could earn
I'm not going to say exactly what I paid for it but it wasn't huge amounts above what was paid for that stock cossie but bone stock cars will always fetch top dollar to collectors where modified will not, standard doesn't interest me at all slow and rubbish 😂🤣
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