Anyone seen these?

would love a bubble arch 😎😎

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F383419361421

 

I bet they are Ł20k painted or more inc vat though. You probably need another Ł10k to Ł20k+ in parts. Would be nice though.

 

So how do you go about chassis Numbers then?

A good idea if you have plenty of money.

 

You’ll have to register it as a new car or buy one of the stolen vins on eBay 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

I don’t know if this would end up on a Q plate?

 

These days it will end up Q reg witch lets face it makes its worthless who wants a mk1 escort on Q reg with yellow and white number plates also makes it not mot or tax exempt etc etc.. there are for reshell or track rally build really.

 

Most will be used to reshell a rotten car, so will get the ID from the rusty one.

I've seen one of the MK2 ones up close and they're not bad quality. I'm not really into it though. As above, they're mostly aimed at the rally boys and the last thing British rallying needs is more sodding Escorts. There are far too many of them.

 

You posted a thread on the evolving ford scene in which you said it was ""miserable old bugger" theme because some people want to be different but you are not happy with the rally guys who love and enjoy their MK2 escorts and want to be different. Seems odd to me.

 

You could get all new parts and then reg as a new car, I think....then put a dateless plate on it?

Q plate would not really bother me...it is funny how it de-values a car though

 

Can you put a private reg on a q plate?

 

nah once a Q always a Q. in ireland its QNI but you carnt put reg on nor will it ever be classic etc for insurance

 

My friend was on about getting one of these. I had a q plate transit mk2 spec lift van i bought. Couldn't insure it even on my trade policy so we ended up breaking it for parts and cutting up the rest for scrap. Was gutted.

 

I did. Mostly because people with STs or pops and bangs maps aren't hurting anyone. When up to 40% of some rally entry lists (even more on historic events) are made up of the same car, and the technical regulations favour said car, it's damaging to the development and future of the sport, so I think it needs to be changed. If people want to rally Escorts, that's fine by me, but the UK's obsession with the MK2 isn't helping the sport to attract the younger audience needed to help sustain it into the future.

 

So would you have to fit an engine that had catalytic converters on and would the engine emmisons have to be spot on.

 

massivewangers It is not just older guys who love the Mk2 escorts, plenty of younger guys love them as well. There is plenty of new development and different makes of new cars being used in WRC rallying The MK2 Escorts etc are mainly in club and historic rallies and it is a way for enthusiasts to still compete without having to spend the mega money that works teams have to. Also at some car shows it is probably up to 40% or more Focus RS, ST and new Fiesta's now.

 

There on new reg no q plates ffs

 

so they have a vin number on the shell? How do they get around type approval and non new parts for the rest?

 

motorsport tools build everything new just like the new mk2s they do and send to get registered

 

you can either get them as a service shell for your rusty one or they are offering a service with gbs sportscars in collaboration they are registering them correctly as GBS do with kit cars so don't bat an eye when you see a brand new reg mk2 escort however most will fit a private plate and yes everyones aware you wont get tax and test exemption from a new registered shell
this is for the mk2 however motorsport tools offer a svo department so they will be in talks about new registering mk1s too

 

Of course there are plenty of new cars at WRC level, because you're not allowed old ones The problem is, even at club rallying, having 30+% of entry lists made up of one car is unhelpful. You are right in that some younger people still like them of course, but if you want to make something appealing to a new audience, for many, it has to be relevant to that audience. I don't know many young people that own 40 year old Escorts and Chevettes, so they're anything but relevant. We should be encouraging the use of modern hot hatches, so Fiesta STs, VXRs etc etc. Rallying needs to bring in new blood to replace the aging population of marshals/organisers, so being stuck in the 1970s in terms of the cars we use isn't very helpful. It's not the only problem of course but, in my view, it is still a problem. It's not even like they're cheap either. The top Escorts are six-figure cars and even a body shell to build a basic club car is going to cost more than buying a more modern, complete car.

Anyway, getting a bit off topic.

You could register it as a new car if it was built from all-new components, but surely it couldn't be a "Ford Escort" on the logbook, because it's not a Ford shell. It's not like the heritage shells that you could get for MGs and the like. If you reshell an existing Escort into one of these aftermarket ones, technically it would have to go on a Q-plate surely? I'm sure none of them do though!

 

No idea what it is in Ireland, but in Northern Ireland it is QNI.

No doubt Ireland will have a system that nets them a huge sum of money with their criminal VRT though

 

not entirely correct, it will be registered similar to the rs200 kit cars which aren't on q plates, it will get a new reg and be named different
the rs200 reps are down as mrs200 or the kitcars don't go on q plates there down as something like gbs zero
gbs are in collaboration with motorsport tools so would it be a gbs escort?

 

Yes very true, it could be down as the manufacturer of the kit car. I wonder how that would stand in terms of competition though. Would a GBS "Escort" be eligible for historic racing/rallying? I would assume not.

 

I think a lot of the historic race series allow this sort of thing to help fill the grids and keep the costs down.

 

I agree possibly not for that im not up on the classes but the darians still do and they are essentially a kitcar

 

It's an interesting one for sure. Goodwood are a bit sniffy about that sort of thing. Didn't they even ban the lightweight E-Types that Jaguar made themselves? A bit odd, as a lot of the cars that race at Goodwood are allegedly replicas anyway.