Ford and VW to partner up.
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16-01-2019, 08:13 AM
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16-01-2019, 12:18 PM
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I kind of like the idea of a mk2 fiesta and the 1.8T Vag lump, that sound like a good partnership.
just need a mk2 and the engine now, oh and lots of spare time
just need a mk2 and the engine now, oh and lots of spare time
16-01-2019, 05:48 PM
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Of course profit is more important, it's a business, not a charity
What was wrong with the Galaxy? Not an exciting car, but a sturdy people bus, if that's what you need. These kind of tie-ups are inevitable really, especially with the car industry in the state it's in. We might all like Ford but, they are in a shit state and not making any money. It makes absolute sense to share resources and jointly develop products.
Let's face it, if people remove the blinkers, VAG make some fantastic products, so I don't mind being able to benefit from some of that tech, but combine it with some of the good stuff from Fords.
What was wrong with the Galaxy? Not an exciting car, but a sturdy people bus, if that's what you need. These kind of tie-ups are inevitable really, especially with the car industry in the state it's in. We might all like Ford but, they are in a shit state and not making any money. It makes absolute sense to share resources and jointly develop products.
Let's face it, if people remove the blinkers, VAG make some fantastic products, so I don't mind being able to benefit from some of that tech, but combine it with some of the good stuff from Fords.
17-01-2019, 07:49 AM
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It's all about money. Why are Ford in a look much debt?? Is this just because there has been the wrong people running the business??
I don't think there are many bad cars these days,ok some are better than others. It's like people go on about how good German cars are. I can only go by experience and to me there not as good as what people think they are. Imo I think some car company's are just good at covering how poo they are.
I'm not saying ford are the best but yet again I can only go from experience and the Ford's I've owned have been spot on. The worse Ford I've owned is the cossie but I put this down to owners not knowing about these cars.
I don't think there are many bad cars these days,ok some are better than others. It's like people go on about how good German cars are. I can only go by experience and to me there not as good as what people think they are. Imo I think some car company's are just good at covering how poo they are.
I'm not saying ford are the best but yet again I can only go from experience and the Ford's I've owned have been spot on. The worse Ford I've owned is the cossie but I put this down to owners not knowing about these cars.
17-01-2019, 08:48 AM
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sadly true
Of course profit is more important, it's a business, not a charity
What was wrong with the Galaxy? Not an exciting car, but a sturdy people bus, if that's what you need. These kind of tie-ups are inevitable really, especially with the car industry in the state it's in. We might all like Ford but, they are in a shit state and not making any money. It makes absolute sense to share resources and jointly develop products.
Let's face it, if people remove the blinkers, VAG make some fantastic products, so I don't mind being able to benefit from some of that tech, but combine it with some of the good stuff from Fords.
What was wrong with the Galaxy? Not an exciting car, but a sturdy people bus, if that's what you need. These kind of tie-ups are inevitable really, especially with the car industry in the state it's in. We might all like Ford but, they are in a shit state and not making any money. It makes absolute sense to share resources and jointly develop products.
Let's face it, if people remove the blinkers, VAG make some fantastic products, so I don't mind being able to benefit from some of that tech, but combine it with some of the good stuff from Fords.
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17-01-2019, 05:58 PM
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It's all about money. Why are Ford in a look much debt?? Is this just because there has been the wrong people running the business??
I don't think there are many bad cars these days,ok some are better than others. It's like people go on about how good German cars are. I can only go by experience and to me there not as good as what people think they are. Imo I think some car company's are just good at covering how poo they are.
I'm not saying ford are the best but yet again I can only go from experience and the Ford's I've owned have been spot on. The worse Ford I've owned is the cossie but I put this down to owners not knowing about these cars.
I don't think there are many bad cars these days,ok some are better than others. It's like people go on about how good German cars are. I can only go by experience and to me there not as good as what people think they are. Imo I think some car company's are just good at covering how poo they are.
I'm not saying ford are the best but yet again I can only go from experience and the Ford's I've owned have been spot on. The worse Ford I've owned is the cossie but I put this down to owners not knowing about these cars.
You're right that there aren't really any bad cars out there anymore. Most of them are pretty good. The benefit for us is that, if manufacturers share some development costs, it might make cars cheaper or, at the very least, help them to stay in profit, meaning they won't start cutting back on their ranges. Ford and others are already starting to cut models, so this kind of thing might prevent that.
You're right, Ford are pretty good. They get some elements of their cars right, but I think they would benefit from help in other areas. When it comes to technology, they would benefit from some help. VW always seem to be a bit ahead of Ford when it comes to infotainment, and technology like adaptive cruise control.
Don't all cars have issues? In fairness, when do you ever say a positive word about anything
17-01-2019, 06:18 PM
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of course all cars have issues this thread is aimed at vag/ford hence commenting, so anyone can have a opinion except me ? was that not the purpose of forums to voice opinions and share input good or bad, having owned both mks of galaxys found them both very troublesome and nearly always electrical vag controlled modules failing requiring vag not ford software to resolve, so that gives me and any past owner or tech the right to share findings, of course theres owners out there that have had zero issues but that was not my own personal experience, so rather than making snidey comments about someone you dont know and never will I suggest you refrain from any personal remarks in the future, if you dont like me I could not care less.
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20-01-2019, 07:35 AM
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my friend had an rs2 in late 90s and it was tuned to around 380 bhp, we took it on the Mira wet handling circuit and you could back it in to a corner with a scandi flick and a lift and almost be going backwards, then plant the throttle and it would eventually go straight.
21-01-2019, 12:43 AM
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The vr6 sharan was good and sounded brilliantly. Took my fathers out for a bit and it averaged around 8mpg but sounded brilliantly
thats not good, it makes spares go through the roof on price in second hand market and probably not enough made to warrant a company making aftermarket.
my friend had an rs2 in late 90s and it was tuned to around 380 bhp, we took it on the Mira wet handling circuit and you could back it in to a corner with a scandi flick and a lift and almost be going backwards, then plant the throttle and it would eventually go straight.
I've had quite a few s2's and s2 avants and they are good but audi suck royally when it comes to spares for any of them. Even the old Ur's that made them are pretty much obsolete for spares. Its easier to say what is available which isn't much.
Rs2 with just a remap gets you up to 380bhp, some remaps are better than others but at that level you are borderline at bending rods if you work hard enough at it.
thats not good, it makes spares go through the roof on price in second hand market and probably not enough made to warrant a company making aftermarket.
my friend had an rs2 in late 90s and it was tuned to around 380 bhp, we took it on the Mira wet handling circuit and you could back it in to a corner with a scandi flick and a lift and almost be going backwards, then plant the throttle and it would eventually go straight.
Rs2 with just a remap gets you up to 380bhp, some remaps are better than others but at that level you are borderline at bending rods if you work hard enough at it.
30-01-2019, 07:41 AM
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The old VW based Galaxy's are FAR more reliable than the later ones going by my experiences of working on cars everyday.
Wouldn't touch a later one with a barge pole.
I'm not the biggest fan of VW either but I certainly think that going by my findings, neither manufacturers are better than one another. I certainly will never own another new Ford again, that's for sure and I was Ford through and through. I'll stick to my Honda for now.
Wouldn't touch a later one with a barge pole.
I'm not the biggest fan of VW either but I certainly think that going by my findings, neither manufacturers are better than one another. I certainly will never own another new Ford again, that's for sure and I was Ford through and through. I'll stick to my Honda for now.
30-01-2019, 09:37 AM
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The old VW based Galaxy's are FAR more reliable than the later ones going by my experiences of working on cars everyday.
Wouldn't touch a later one with a barge pole.
I'm not the biggest fan of VW either but I certainly think that going by my findings, neither manufacturers are better than one another. I certainly will never own another new Ford again, that's for sure and I was Ford through and through. I'll stick to my Honda for now.
02-02-2019, 05:59 AM
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I had 3 new Focus ST's (2 diesel ones and 1 petrol) and they all developed a loud cracking noise on either n/s or o/s A pillar to which my local dealer told me that it was due to a manufacturing issue and would require a new A pillar panel to fix it. Fuck having my new car chopped about!
I wasn't happy with Fords customer service either.
After all that it got traded in for a Golf GTI. Not without its issues either but the customer service was leagues ahead.
Modern Fords just do not seem to be as reliable as a lot of other manufacturers out there these days and that comment comes from me working on cars every day and having to recover the things into dealers.
02-02-2019, 09:18 AM
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I had a 66 plate Focus ST. To be honest I really liked the car but the thing developed so many rattles and creaks after just one year of owning it and it randomly would not recognise the smart key (both of them) and after going into the dealer numerous times I get told they don't know what's wrong with it so they can't fix it.
I had 3 new Focus ST's (2 diesel ones and 1 petrol) and they all developed a loud cracking noise on either n/s or o/s A pillar to which my local dealer told me that it was due to a manufacturing issue and would require a new A pillar panel to fix it. Fuck having my new car chopped about!
I wasn't happy with Fords customer service either.
After all that it got traded in for a Golf GTI. Not without its issues either but the customer service was leagues ahead.
Modern Fords just do not seem to be as reliable as a lot of other manufacturers out there these days and that comment comes from me working on cars every day and having to recover the things into dealers.
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