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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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come home to mine to day 3 or 4 of them going mad jumping out the water ? there bout 4 to 6 lbs jap koi and one no wat it could be ? never done it be for ? then when i went out the spooked well bad never normal spook and couldnt even bring them up with food ?
think it could be a deses? what you lot think ?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Eeek doesn't sound good?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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think if they dont stop by tomoz take a trip to fish shop
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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get the chips out mate...

fook knows, i had a goldfish once, went out and its was swimming happily about, came home and it was floating on its side
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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maybe there mating?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Whenever i bought new fish they had tendances to jump up and out of the pond, but they settled in fine. if worried stick a net over the top of the pond! watch out for fox's too, the got all my fish in the end an di got rid of my pond
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Ants in their pants!!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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We lost our Ghost Koi to a heron. Had grown from a 5" tiddler to a 13" monster we called jaws. Gutted we lost him.

Phone a fish place for advise mate. Deffo worth putting a net over the pond though to keep them in there
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Check the acidity of the water Luke.

It also could be low in oxygen levels
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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check for the water as nuts said, could be a parasite or desiese

do a water change....sounds to me like low oxygen levels, replacing up between 30-50% of the water should help.

is it over stocked?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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ok fish has been in the pond 1 year 1 month water has loads of oxgen , water is clear cant seem to work out wat it is ? will get water kit out soon and check for amonia and shit like that . water get added ever time it gose below a line on my liner wat was about 2 days ago cant really think of much but will call the fish shop tomoz
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Its pH may now be too low due to the amount of ammonia produced from either overfeeding or waste.

Koi are also known to jump during spawning - so netting at this time of year is good.

Are they doing anything else ? Gulping for air or flashing against the side of the pond as this suggests a different set of problems.

If pH is low adding 0.2% salt will bring a quick cure without affecting the water temperature. A gradual change of filtered water is best tho
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Whenever i bought new fish they had tendances to jump up and out of the pond, but they settled in fine. if worried stick a net over the top of the pond! watch out for fox's too, the got all my fish in the end an di got rid of my pond
was feeding the foxs in are work tonight on my way home
tonight about 2.30am they love "Sayers sausage rolls"
COOL TO WATCH them semi tame but not STUPID
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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fish seem to have carm down now letf the net on there as it is gettign close to sporning time, i tested the water and this is what i got
ammonia (nh3/nh+4) : in between 0ppm (mg/l) and .5 ?
nitrite (no-2) : 0ppm (mg/l)?
freshwater PH : in between 7.2 and 7.6 ?
so by lookin at that i would say the waters fine ? any one else think diffrent ?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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I would say it's probably because the weather is getting a bit warmer and they realise it's that time of year

I keep fancy goldfish indoors and they sometimes drive me mad at night times, thrashing around the tank and wrecking the place - they are kept at 22 degrees, as they don't do well in cold temps, but this means they constantly think it's springtime

I would post on here, if you have any questions www.fishkeeping.co.uk There are a few pond experts on there - very helpful
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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your ammonia should b always 0, 0-5 is no good, also stress could of made them do this, koi are very sensitive, especially to ammonia, i dont have that much knowlage with pond fish but i used 2 inport tropical fish from the amozan, and
have experiance with expensive sensitive breeds discus and L-numbers
hope u get it sorted
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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your ammonia should b always 0, 0-5 is no good,
so is my ammonia to high ? how can i make it lower ?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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right to sort your ammonia out, partial water change and also clean your filter, its your filter that kills the ammonia, once u do that, go to pet shop and get something in the region of bacterlife(bacterlife is for fish tanks) u want the pond version. put that in as you will kill most of the bacteria in ur filter when you clean it.
if this fail u will have to take a fish out and examine for disease or parasites, there might b something on the skin, too much slime, flukes, or your fish might b in the early stages of white spot, would'nt worry about oxygen as the colder the water the more oxygen and we havn't hit summer yet, hope this helps
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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hello mate my filter is massive ! takes like 5/6 houres to clean but ill try it , they havent got white spot as it was only the big ones doing it ! i will do my filter and add some new water and TAP SAFE that gets rid of bactria
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