Actuator dubts - round two...
09-05-2005, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
We badly need someone to measure an escort cossie genuine turnbuckle from end to end please chaps.
This becoming kind of absurd
Don't you think Stu?
09-05-2005, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Why's that pal?
But don't understand me wrongly (I sometimes get missunderstood :-( - probablylanguage problem ) I just think of it as funny. No offence at all to anybody.
Anyway if somebody could measure all parts in question it would be grear. Apart form actuator rod it would be nice to get measurement of tyhe distance between WG lever and actuator bracket. Maybe that is wrong on mine for some reason.
09-05-2005, 08:23 AM
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LOl.. i know what you mean, and i dont know the answer myself although i reckon il be within 15mm at 145mm. 
Once we ascertain that teh rod you have is definately correct, we then know for a fact that it is the distance between mounting face and wastegate thats at fault, hence me holding out for the turnbuckle length.
Once we ascertain that teh rod you have is definately correct, we then know for a fact that it is the distance between mounting face and wastegate thats at fault, hence me holding out for the turnbuckle length.
09-05-2005, 08:27 AM
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I will modify the rod probably anyway as sending another one from the UK would take too much time :-( But it it's wrong it may be nice to get one for the future 
But there were about 3 or 4 peaople who said it would be 130mm :-/ I checked all Cossies here and they all seam to be using Saphire actuators with short rods.
But there were about 3 or 4 peaople who said it would be 130mm :-/ I checked all Cossies here and they all seam to be using Saphire actuators with short rods.
09-05-2005, 08:29 AM
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By the way Stu - what is maximum usable preload? I mean - if I mount it and pull really hard I'm very close to putting it on. Maybe -31 just needs lots and lots of force? (but I really kind of can't belive in rod holding when screw in one turn only)
09-05-2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Depends on the chips boost map.
Mine are programmed for 18psi with 3mm preload.
Mine are programmed for 18psi with 3mm preload.
3mm. OK will remember
Will be usefull for mods. So you think that if it adjust it for exactly 3mm preload it won't need adjustment of boost?
09-05-2005, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
It shouldnt need much for sure.
All turbos vary of course but you will be in the ball park for certain.
All turbos vary of course but you will be in the ball park for certain.
We managed with Eclipse that wouldn't boost less then 2.5 bar then will manage with that
09-05-2005, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
ill do it thisafternoon when i get in, mine is still on the oem black one.
Thx a lot. I am looking forward to finding out the TRUTH
09-05-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Eggleton
I'll do mine too when I start to strip off the water pump tonight.
09-05-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
right , from the centre of the hole in the rod to the end is 120mm.
hope this helps,.
hope this helps,.
End of the rod????
Now I'm completly lost..... mine is 130mm and too short. Whaddafuck..?
09-05-2005, 04:45 PM
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I've just measured mine and i'll need a turnbuckle thats 117mm from hole center to end of the threaded bit.
Dave - Cheers mate, just what I needed
is that 120mm measurement from a standard big turbo or little turbo escos?
Dave - Cheers mate, just what I needed
is that 120mm measurement from a standard big turbo or little turbo escos?
09-05-2005, 04:53 PM
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on a big turbo - as per pic
there may be slight variations in length, but as you are pre loading it once its screwed together and yuo say shorted the length by half a hole, the exact measurements dont really matter.
there may be slight variations in length, but as you are pre loading it once its screwed together and yuo say shorted the length by half a hole, the exact measurements dont really matter.
09-05-2005, 05:09 PM
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that will fit a fectory escos rod, yours looks like it has been swaped at some time for a what looks like a 4x4saphhire actuator, (which uses a different rod as the threaded bit of the actuator is longer.
09-05-2005, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
that will fit a fectory escos rod, yours looks like it has been swaped at some time for a what looks like a 4x4saphhire actuator, (which uses a different rod as the threaded bit of the actuator is longer.
Arrgrgrrrrrrrr Dave. I already bought long rod from Cossymad. It's 130mm and was supposed to be original Escort Cossie rod. It's still too short.
09-05-2005, 07:15 PM
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your turbo might be a different turbo altogether then, it is strange that the longer rod is still too short...? a good excuse to go 'big tubo' i suppose,,,,
09-05-2005, 11:02 PM
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It does look that way, the actuator bracket is different and the exhaust housing looks different too. What are the numbers on it - i'm sure stu can identify it for you
09-05-2005, 11:10 PM
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It's small turbo Escos!
The exhaust housing was swaped for new one by Garett dealership but they said they identified whole turbo in their catalogue and used right spare part. Maybe it was modified during all this years by garett. For sure it isn't dropping so much on boost at high revs as it used to be.
The exhaust housing was swaped for new one by Garett dealership but they said they identified whole turbo in their catalogue and used right spare part. Maybe it was modified during all this years by garett. For sure it isn't dropping so much on boost at high revs as it used to be.
10-05-2005, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Eggleton
Ah, mine will be a big turbo 
Sorry, I didn't look that closely at your pics 
Sorry, I didn't look that closely at your pics I'll try to make pics with new actuator and show measurements today.
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