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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Default Map sensor question.

Really aimed at the tuners.

I was told by webcon that 3 bar map sensors will not be made again and the tooling has been scrapped. And they tested the aftermarket ones and would not sell them.

So what are our options if we still want to retain the weber ecu's ?

I would like a 4 bar sensor as i'm a boost monster😂

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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Been looking and Julian Godfrey has a 4 bar listed with a adaptor plug.

Guess it would need a remap.
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 12:03 PM
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Ultimately they all just output a 0-5v signal.

So as long as whoever is mapping it is happy with seeing different numbers, then the map sensor you use is irrelevant as long as it covers the range of pressures you need.

And as said before, looking at the scaling for the Weber 3bar sensor, it's pretty close to a GM 3bar sensor anyway

So again, after checking the mapping, really no reason why they couldnt be used. Although to be fair, most of them seem to come from China now too.
I see a place on ebay.com.au selling a GM style 4 bar map sensor for not bad money

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-BAR-MAP-...item1e9ab9832a

But there are better quality local options...more expensive too

http://www.jti.uk.com/product/map-sensors/

VW use a 4 bar map sensor on a few of their cars...pretty sure some of them aso have an integrated temp sensor too.

edit, DTA lists part number as 0281 002 316 for the 400kpa sensor
0281 002 456 for the 350kpa sensor

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Thanks Stevie for the info.😉.

Do you still have the Granada??

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 04:29 PM
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Default Map sensor question.

I see a motorsport place selling some of there's, is it brands hatch motorsport or something like that?
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Originally Posted by costina
Thanks Stevie for the info.😉.

Do you still have the Granada??

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Originally Posted by gcfcos
I see a motorsport place selling some of there's, is it brands hatch motorsport or something like that?
They are the cheap copies that webcon will no sell.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
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Originally Posted by costina
They are the cheap copies that webcon will no sell.
Im not sure if they are the cheap Chinese ones, he had a bit on FB about them saying they come from the US and the voltage is correctly scaled for use with weber.


He also sells a adaptor to make a PF01 read as a PF09 if upgrading to a L8.


Not sure how much I trust him had problems with BHP in the past.
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jamie956
Im not sure if they are the cheap Chinese ones, he had a bit on FB about them saying they come from the US and the voltage is correctly scaled for use with weber.


He also sells a adaptor to make a PF01 read as a PF09 if upgrading to a L8.


Not sure how much I trust him had problems with BHP in the past.
pf09 and 01 are different so not sure how he has managed to do that. If it was that easy ford would have done it.
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Originally Posted by costina
pf09 and 01 are different so not sure how he has managed to do that. If it was that easy ford would have done it.
Ford didnt need to, they had plenty of parts available to choose from lol
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Ford didnt need to, they had plenty of parts available to choose from lol
Very true.
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Originally Posted by costina
pf09 and 01 are different so not sure how he has managed to do that. If it was that easy ford would have done it.

Its a little loom and seams to have a circuit board in line I guess to swap the voltage round. not a bad idea if it works It going to take people coming up with this stuff to keep these cars going.
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Originally Posted by jamie956
Its a little loom and seams to have a circuit board in line I guess to swap the voltage round. not a bad idea if it works It going to take people coming up with this stuff to keep these cars going.
I guess just be nice for these items to be fully tested before someone melts a engine.
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I just recently went to a 5 bar sensor with an adapter harness.
And had a complete live map too

Cheers Paul
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Get a sensor from KA sensors
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Originally Posted by jamie956
Its a little loom and seams to have a circuit board in line I guess to swap the voltage round. not a bad idea if it works It going to take people coming up with this stuff to keep these cars going.
The PF01 contains a switch and is open circuit at idle, this is the difference, so not sure how putting a PCB inline changes this.

You can simply invert the wires to change the voltage, which is the done method.

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
The PF01 contains a switch and is open circuit at idle, this is the difference, so not sure how putting a PCB inline changes this.

You can simply invert the wires to change the voltage, which is the done method.

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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 06:02 PM
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Hmmm I am not convinced 😕
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