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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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rite. on a 90 spec xr3i the indicators have stopped working. hazard lights still work tho. do they have seperate relays? i have changed the indicator stalk and its just the same. what else do you reccommend looking at??????

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when you start the car and you go to turn it off again the engine turns off but dash lights etc stay on.

when you flash main beam it blows no 16 fuse and the drivers side headlight stays on permanently whether ignition on or off......

indicators still dont work

fuse 13 is for indicators and reversing lights. the fuse has been removed and the reverse lights still work.

help me please.....................
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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fuse??????? or relay(yes its seperate)

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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it could also be the indicator stalk, i had lots of trouble with my old orion.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Manchester
it could also be the indicator stalk, i had lots of trouble with my old orion.
i have changed the indicator stalk and its just the same.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Westy
Originally Posted by Mr.Manchester
it could also be the indicator stalk, i had lots of trouble with my old orion.
i have changed the indicator stalk and its just the same.
Note to self: must read posts properly
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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fuse??????? or relay(yes its seperate)

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any idea which is the indicator relay?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Has someone chucked paint at your car or am I colour blind?!

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PS: This happened to my M4 and it was the relay.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cola
Has someone chucked paint at your car or am I colour blind?!

Cola - who has been away and didn't have a high concentration span anyway
There are 2x TonyTurbos on here cola
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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nooooooooooo - one is enough lol

TT(2) please ignore my ramblings

TT(1) is your car still white lol
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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is the relay under the dash or in the fusebox?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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has it got electric windows ?
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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yes it has electric windows!!!!!! why you ask that?????????
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Do your blowers still work?

Had this on mine and it was a problem on the fuesboard as the 2 are on the same circuit. Cost next to bugger all to sort out though
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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not sure. i'l go and check.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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no the blower not working either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Check the fuseboard where the relay for the circuit fixes and clean the terminals up. May be worth using a small screwdriver to bend the contacts slightly to improve the connection. You may well find this cures the problem
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you any idea which relay it is??????
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Not off the top of my head mate sorry. Was ages ago mine did it.

Will have a butchers in my Haynes manual if I can find the bugger
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Car could just be having an identity crisis... Thinks its a BMW.

On my old MK4 XR3i this happened. Replaced the whole fuse board in the end.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyturbo
yes it has electric windows!!!!!! why you ask that?????????
it makes it easier to stick your arm out when turning right

As far as I remember the relay you need to check is next to the power window one in the fuse box. If there was a problem with the fuse box or feed then they would have stopped too Sounds easy enough to trace once you know which relay it is.... pity I cant remember either. Just clean them all up and see how it goes
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Why don't you move to Wiltshire, no problem if they don't work no fooker use's em anyway
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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tonyturbo, im 100% sure its the yellow relay in the fuse board(the taller one) burnt out, change it then come back on hear fanking me
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by essexrsturbo
tonyturbo, im 100% sure its the yellow relay in the fuse board(the taller one) burnt out, change it then come back on hear fanking me
there is 2 yellow relays in the fuse box and guess what!! there both the same fookin size
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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it is 1 of the small yellow relays. the 1 nearest the right. as it clicks as normal when you run a live wire into the left side of indicator fuse holder.
any more ideas guy's??????
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Are you saying its dead before the fuse too ???
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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yes. no power to the fuse.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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right this will take some explaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i run a wire from the battery to the fuse holder in the fusebox for the indicators they work no probs,
but if you put the lights onto mainbeam the wires try to melt!
also with this wire connected i have power at the blower but it still doesnt work!!!!
i have the clocks etc removed an unplugged from the instrument cluster and the drivers side mainbeam stays on until you connect the instrument cluster back up doesnt go off with ignition either. also found the remains of an old immobiliser loom under dash so removed it just incase. still the same tho.
wired to the fuckin moon it is.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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hmmm.... well mine wen suddenly and it woz one of them yellow relays that had burnt out in the fuseboard, try it
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Yep, the relay could be causing the short circuit. But you say it works ok if you power up the fuse .... so ......

Got to check back in the loom from before the fusebox to look for a short somewhere. Has it blown the fuse your powering up manually ?
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Sounds to me like you need to start from scratch...

Look at which circuits are not working/faulty, then look at these circuits on a wiring diagram and see if they have anything in common (feeds, earths, fuses, splices in the loom etc etc).

Make sure all fuses are ok and all wires are connected to the battery (the small ones as well).

With the help of the wiring diagram and a testlight go through the circuits starting from the battery, the fuse, the component, the earth and all the wiring in between.

If you just start swaping relays about etc you may cause more harm.
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the indicator relay is black and its plugged into the indicator stalk/switch assembly.

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Originally Posted by TrickyDicky
the indicator relay is black and its plugged into the indicator stalk/switch assembly.

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yes. there is also a yellow one in the fusebox!!
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Yep, the relay could be causing the short circuit. But you say it works ok if you power up the fuse .... so ......

Got to check back in the loom from before the fusebox to look for a short somewhere. Has it blown the fuse your powering up manually ?
changed the relay and it made no difference..

the fuse i am powering manually is fine...
have started stripping the black tape off of the loom at the indicator stalk and following it back to the fusebox. lost a bit of time today as spent most of the afternoon at casualty as the girlfriend came off her horse and wrecked her back and neck muscles. never mind. the car was goin for an mot at half 10 tomorrow so looks like itl be getting cancelled!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Moonie
Look at which circuits are not working/faulty, then look at these circuits on a wiring diagram and see if they have anything in common (feeds, earths, fuses, splices in the loom etc etc).

Make sure all fuses are ok and all wires are connected to the battery (the small ones as well).

With the help of the wiring diagram and a testlight go through the circuits starting from the battery, the fuse, the component, the earth and all the wiring in between.
i havent really got a diagram for the 90 spec escort as the mk4 escort haynes manual doesnt include it. will it be same as normal early spec escort???????
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Which side of the fuse is dead ??
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Which side of the fuse is dead ??
both sides of the fuse is dead. if i power up the right hand side it does nothing and if you power up the left hand side it works the indicators etc.
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