as above im looking at buying one as im spending a small fortune on getting extra keys programmed for myself and mates accident damaged cars but seem so many to choose from and which type ie one that plugs into obd or one you place the key in/onto.i bought the sbb v33 but was utter crap so sent that back so let me know what you use cheers

 

So long as you have one programmed, you can program additional without a 'programmer', usually?

Martin

 

Not on some fords. You need 2 coded keys for other keys to be coded. Well thats what I got told.

 

I thought you could only have a maximum of two?

Your not thinking of the early PATS are you with the 'red' master key?

Martin

 

If using IDS/ETIS to code keys where the keys have been cleared from PATS memory (adviseable from a salvage auction) you need to pair at least 2 keys to initialise the system.

If just 'adding a key' and not deleting other known keys you can just add 1 key to it.

Some more modern Fords don't allow the old trick of turning key on, off, then adding a blank key they require proper programming.

 

GVK. Do you have to phone up ford for a code when using the ids tester.

The diagnostic specialist who comes to out work sometimes said that if you turn the ignition on and off 9times you can code a key in. I said you couldnt and only need to turn the ignition on and off 4 times.

 

No mate, I have dealer access to ETIS with a Ford log-in, so I can request the incodes online. Same as radio codes and access to OASIS for Ford technical.

You know the screen you get on IDS that shows the vin, reason for access, part number, serial number and outcode/error control?
We just go onto ETIS and fill in that form on line, log in again and it gives the incode.

Not sure about the key thing, never needed to do it that way.

4 times on-off puts it in programming mode to learn the remote locking fob, but not the immobiliser, I thought?
Interestingly on the later 2008> Fiestas you need to buckle the seat belts in to learn the key fob.

Also, the new new cars like new shape Focus, you have to use an app called FDRS to learn keys, load later calibrations, program mudules etc., it's a fuckin ball ache to do anything with.

 

that's what I need one for a 59 plate fiesta 1.2 petrol and one for a 56 plate 1.8 d focus

 

The later keyless ones (push start) you cant do through ids now, you need to go through E-tis takes a little bit longer,and it is getting more difficult to code in keys.

 

both arnt keyless fobs

 

I'd be asking these mobile locksmiths what they use.

Bram, thats the FDRS thing on ETIS, I fitted a body control module on a Focus a while back had to use it to learn keys and program the module, we had the field engineer down and even he said it's shit.

 

Me and a lad at work want a key coded for our cars. We have a IDS at work so of I do what you said I should be able to code our keys in. He has a 54 reg ST170 and I have my Pooma.

 

If you can get onto etis and have a password then you should be able to mate

 

I will have to have a look next time I use the IDS.

 

Sounds just the same as the insignia and Astra j. Programming a key for them is done through tis2web and has you opening and closing doors key in and out and takes around an hour. Long gone of the days that programming new keys and modules would take minuets with TECH2.

 

Glenn, you can use the standard IDS (toolbox>body>security functions)

But as Bram says you need to log into the Ford ETIS site to be able to get the 4 digit code.

 

Thanks people. I will give it a go.

 

If you're not sure how to do it drop me a pm.

 

Thanks matey. I will pm you and you can give me a step by step guide.

 

bring both keys to ford fair (with the cars is possible) and there is normally a bod there who makes them ont he spot for £35

made a copy of the fiesta one which has come in VER handy because the mrs keeps forgetting the keys in her pocket at work when the cars at home twat