3doorcozmess

Hello chaps

out of interest does any one have a alarm that if it goes off your car can text you?

I've seen a gadget on ebay thats ment to text you if your car alarm is set off, if you battery is low and other things but its only about 30 quid and requires a sim car.

In this day and age I would of thought some of the premium alarms would have this function by now or do they.

please tell me your thoughts

Si

Carlos-Titx

RSD have a car alarm with a phone app that informs you of this info and remote start. God knows what it is but could ask them on Facebook.

stevieturbo

I think most of the cheap GPS tracker type setups basically do that.

Not so much on alarm, but on movement outside a predefined zone

You can buy GSM diallers that operate off 12v that you could add onto a car alarm. Not sure how seamless you could make the integration though

Cossie.jack

I was reading a thread on zsoc about some one who had an alarm that texted when the alarm went of and if the car started. He could then text it back to shut down the car! I think thats right anyway!

martysmartie

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It's good that it notifies you if it's been triggered, however it's a bit pointless re the shutting down aspect, as if the car has been started this means the immobiliser has been circumvented, thus it would make no difference!

Re the alerts I am pretty sure this has been available for a while, it's probably on a subscription basis though!

Martin

Psycho Warren

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You can buy add ons from almost all the decent alarm manufacturers that have a paging/text function.

Some of them are compatable with all alarms because of the relative simplicity of the inputs and outputs which you program and specify function on fitting. Some also have relay/switching control functions so you can use them as an additional remote immobilisor.

stevieturbo

A remotely activated secondary immobiliser would hardly be deemed pointless.

Not all systems only immobilise one aspect of the engine.

Psycho Warren

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if you plan your security system properly then the unit for alarm/immobilisor will be seperate from the GPS/SMS unit so that the scum finding one and bypassing the factory/main alarm immobilisor functions means that they may not have found the other which has its own indepenant means of immobilising.

All dependant on a competant and not lazy alarm fitter though. Too often they get put in quite obvious places or in the same place on the same model.

martysmartie

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Any decent alarm has two points of immobilisation, they have to in order to be approved! This is what I was referring to, so if they have got it running, then it's not going to make any difference!

Martin

Carlos-Titx

Some systems now immobilise the OBD port as well so keyless entry can't be recoded.

stevieturbo

Of course a unique immobiliser to the GSM system will make a difference. It will immobilise the vehicle !

martysmartie

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But if they have bypassed two points of immobilisation, an independent one will make no difference, unless you immobilise the same point twice and it was not noticed, I can see it to an extent, however in the real world car thief's are very clever, for example it has been shown how weak BMW security is!

Martin

Psycho Warren

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youre assuming theyve looked for the third one.

If the car has started and they are driving, why would they be looking for anything else until they park up and rip it apart for the tracker??

the idea is you get a text, then knowing its on the move, you remote immobilise it. I cant imagine most thieves wanting to hang around searching for another immobilisor while their car has died in the middle of the street.

I disagree that thieves are very clever. most are "thick as thieves". Knowing how to use tools and disable alarms they have been taught and shown how to disable isnt particularly clever.

The clever ones are the ones designing the software used to hack these alarms, recode etc and finding the weakpoints in the design.

focusv8

A clever thief wouldn't go anywhere near the car, they'd sent some other fool to do it and just collect the reward.

stevieturbo

Or just design a system were car owners have to continually pay them money in order to own or drive their car without threat of having it stolen from them......ie tax and insurance scams !!

Psycho Warren

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exactly, usually some junkie lowlife or some arrogant youth who thinks hes invincible and will never get caught.

martysmartie

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You seen the videos of BMW's being stolen? They don't look like fools to me, rather they know exactly what they are doing.

Stealing old cars isn't difficult, I realized how to do it when I was a child! Nowadays the game has changed.

Martin

Psycho Warren

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They have been shown where to plug in the box and how to operate it, what wires to cut etc, doesnt take a technition or electronics specialist. Just requires someone capable of following instructions in a sequence under pressure.

Carlos-Titx

Don't even need to cut wires.

You can buy the coding boxes and OBD cable on eBay.

Cossie.jack

Okay i got it wrong
He can start the car by remote or text it to start not turn off.
http://www.zsoc.com/showthread.php?t=138507&page=3

Psycho Warren

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cant see thread as i dont fancy registering on the childrens playground of forums

Im sure if he can remote start it by text, it can be wired to remote stop.

I was thinking of being a cunt when i had SMS control wired in by having the ABS/brake booster relays wired into it so i can make the cunts crash but id have had to fit it myself and program it myself as no alarm installer will do such a mod.

martysmartie

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Remote start is an old thing, I always think it's dodgy myself.

Martin

Carlos-Titx

Especially if you're in the habit of leaving the car in 1st gear when parked

Psycho Warren

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carlos could be amusing if you had a starter thats powerful enough to pull off in first until the engine fires up.

My cossie starter will get me engine running in first gear no problem on flats and slight inclines.

Found that out when my clutch cable snapped and was only a mile from home

Carlos-Titx

Happened in Blackpool at a shell garage. Honda went into the shop front.

martysmartie

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Precisely, I always leave in gear.

Martin

brad

We stopped fitting any txt alert devices as they seem to have no end of issues.
The main one being the amount of credit they go through. Some of them send a text every time a warn away trigger is activated, anyone who has a proximity sensor fitted knows how often they can go off if parked in a busy car park or on a busy road.

IMHO stick with a decent alarm/immobiliser and a tracker. We work closely with Sussex RPU and can say genuine trackers are still the best method of finding your stolen car. If thieves want your car they will work out a way to get it even if they can't start it.

3doorcozmess

Thats all good Brad but my problem is my car is locked up 2 roads away from my house. my car could be long gone before i even know it's gone, i need a device that will text me to let me know the car has moved or some way of checking my car is still in the garage with out me driving there every day.

I've even thought about buying a pay as you go chip and putting into a smart phone placing it in the car and use a tracking app like find my iphone so i can check the car daily

Also ive read of some of these devices will text you when the battery is going low which i think is very usefull, i hate having to piss around with jump leads.

so if any one has any ideas please let me know

3doorcozmess

Just looked at what tracker i have on the car and its a smart track Protector Pro which has some good functions

• GPS/GSM technologies for location and communication utilising internal aerials
• 24 Hour Secure Control Centre
• Thatcham Approved (Thatcham Quality Assured) CAT 6
• Transferable from vehicle to vehicle (by a SmarTrack approved engineer only)
• Motion sensor incorporated (you will be notified by telephone call if vehicle is moved without the ignition)
• Battery Disconnect Warning (you will be notified by telephone call if vehicle battery is disconnected)
• Low vehicle battery warning (you will be notified if vehicle battery runs low by text message)
• On board internal rechargeable battery back up

but they won't Ł150 pounds a year to track or Ł400 for the time i own the car.
i know it's worth it but I find it frustrating the alarm can't send me the alerts direct why has it got to go through a company.

marky_g

I recommend CELLCOM as alarm fitter we use them at our dealers

Personaly I'd use a cobra or a sigma alarm too, and cobra tracker

STAFFY OWNER

^^^^^^^Got anymore info on the above mate?

3doorcozmess

i have a cobra alarm fitted, just would of thought in this day and age i would be able to leave a device in my car and use a app to check where my car is