3d printing modified car parts.
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Just thinking has anyone 3d printed and car parts yet? I think an inlet manifold would lend itself perfect to be printed.
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Suppose it all depends on how strong the parts are once printed and how resistant they are to relatively high temperatures.
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I don't think 60-70 degrees wouldnt be s problem for it and as for durability is very good and honestly don't think it would be a problem. I'm going to the mac show this year to learn more about 3d machines
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Ive been looking at all sorts of components made in 3d print. The materials are really coming into their own now.
I was inspecting a pair of girls Klarke shoes the other day, very cool, very well made too.
I have seen tools made in 3d print too, like adjustable spanners that adjust with no assembly.
I was inspecting a pair of girls Klarke shoes the other day, very cool, very well made too.
I have seen tools made in 3d print too, like adjustable spanners that adjust with no assembly.
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I think a better use would be the printing of parts in order to make a mould for casting them.
A printed item probably wouldnt be ideal or robust enough for an engine environment. But from a design and prototype point of view...surely using those methods to facilitate cast alloy parts, turbo manifolds etc etc would be ideal.
A printed item probably wouldnt be ideal or robust enough for an engine environment. But from a design and prototype point of view...surely using those methods to facilitate cast alloy parts, turbo manifolds etc etc would be ideal.
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Cool! Thats clever stuff ll. who the hell thought of that!
I work for bosch and they jave developed some laser tech and can engrave the map of the world on the head of a pin lol.
Think they are using it for precise diesel injectors
But that is nothing to do with what i do.
I work for bosch and they jave developed some laser tech and can engrave the map of the world on the head of a pin lol.
Think they are using it for precise diesel injectors
But that is nothing to do with what i do.
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My company currently deals with a supplier in France who have a patented material that they 3D print and Sinter that is used in all Renault F1 engines so I guess temperature is not an issue
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Thinking in the past....
It would be ideal to scan/copy obsolete car parts and reproduce them.
Eg. Renault 5 front grilles are not made by renault anymore and second hand they sell for over Ł200
Plus mint ones are running out meaning you have to settle for a damaged one.
Trying to mould them isn't easy due to the intricacy of them so this could be great.
It would be ideal to scan/copy obsolete car parts and reproduce them.
Eg. Renault 5 front grilles are not made by renault anymore and second hand they sell for over Ł200
Plus mint ones are running out meaning you have to settle for a damaged one.
Trying to mould them isn't easy due to the intricacy of them so this could be great.
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Thinking in the past....
It would be ideal to scan/copy obsolete car parts and reproduce them.
Eg. Renault 5 front grilles are not made by renault anymore and second hand they sell for over Ł200
Plus mint ones are running out meaning you have to settle for a damaged one.
Trying to mould them isn't easy due to the intricacy of them so this could be great.
It would be ideal to scan/copy obsolete car parts and reproduce them.
Eg. Renault 5 front grilles are not made by renault anymore and second hand they sell for over Ł200
Plus mint ones are running out meaning you have to settle for a damaged one.
Trying to mould them isn't easy due to the intricacy of them so this could be great.
Of course he opted for original parts even at a silly price. But he had the option of 3D printed replacements
Question is how much are very low volume pieces via 3D ?
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Hi,
I have printed, or sintered as its called, 2 sets of runners and a roller barrel throttle body in aluminum for our formula student cars at the uni. The strength is great, actually much stronger than cast aluminum. These sintering machines are getting better and better every year, especially resolution wise. Currently the surface finish is a bit rough, so the parts need a lot of hand finishing. There are also different sintering methods to build up parts, with and without so-called support structure, and some are better than others.
The main problem with sintering parts is the need for purging the chamber with pressurized nitrogen to keep contaminants out. This is insanely expensive as most of it is just dumped to the atmosphere, however systems for recirculating the nitrogen are being developed.
The expense is mostly governed by the hight of the parts as the laser only takes seconds, a new super thin layer of metal powder has to be applied which is what takes a long time for every layer. I recall a set of 4 runners cost 3000 pounds just covering the nitrogen.
I have printed, or sintered as its called, 2 sets of runners and a roller barrel throttle body in aluminum for our formula student cars at the uni. The strength is great, actually much stronger than cast aluminum. These sintering machines are getting better and better every year, especially resolution wise. Currently the surface finish is a bit rough, so the parts need a lot of hand finishing. There are also different sintering methods to build up parts, with and without so-called support structure, and some are better than others.
The main problem with sintering parts is the need for purging the chamber with pressurized nitrogen to keep contaminants out. This is insanely expensive as most of it is just dumped to the atmosphere, however systems for recirculating the nitrogen are being developed.
The expense is mostly governed by the hight of the parts as the laser only takes seconds, a new super thin layer of metal powder has to be applied which is what takes a long time for every layer. I recall a set of 4 runners cost 3000 pounds just covering the nitrogen.
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We have plastic printers aswell, and Ive used them mainly for prototyping and proof of concept. At the highest resolution I believe it could work for an inlet manifold.
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Has been done many times for the inlet manifold and other parts for testing purposes. Have a look at the link below for an example.
Main restrictions with domestic 3D printing is currently the material is ABS or PLA which as mentioned above is not ideal for most strucural, elevated temperature environments. remember that most 3D printers are just like a hot glue gun on a print head. It prints 3D models in layers like a massive onion skin.
The melt temp is releativly low to create fast, cheap prints. the working envelope of domestic printers is also small and print speed currently very slow.
Proper addative manufacturing machines work at mush higher speeds and use laser light to cure resins to create parts at higher cost.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...72/3DInlet.pdf
Main restrictions with domestic 3D printing is currently the material is ABS or PLA which as mentioned above is not ideal for most strucural, elevated temperature environments. remember that most 3D printers are just like a hot glue gun on a print head. It prints 3D models in layers like a massive onion skin.
The melt temp is releativly low to create fast, cheap prints. the working envelope of domestic printers is also small and print speed currently very slow.
Proper addative manufacturing machines work at mush higher speeds and use laser light to cure resins to create parts at higher cost.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...72/3DInlet.pdf
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Apparently Stephan Klassen 3d printed his custom inlet(z20let) as a test bed and subsequently used it to make a cast for ally ones once he was happy. During testing he wasn't keen on running too much boost though in case it split.
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Cool! Thats clever stuff ll. who the hell thought of that!
I work for bosch and they jave developed some laser tech and can engrave the map of the world on the head of a pin lol.
Think they are using it for precise diesel injectors
But that is nothing to do with what i do.
I work for bosch and they jave developed some laser tech and can engrave the map of the world on the head of a pin lol.
Think they are using it for precise diesel injectors
But that is nothing to do with what i do.
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I imagine that bosch developed the laser specifically for its intended use (precise diesel injectors iirc)
But this would be in germany, not over here.
There was also another thing about the laser technology where they cut out a shape of a camel, and passed it through the eye of a needle (an old saying aparrently. Ive not heard it before tho lol)
So sorry, i really cant help!
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Really?? You can buy a 3d printer for about 400 that prints roughly 15x15cm lol its the type and quality that makes the difference. The ones that use powder are able to build something with moving parts. Type 3d printed wrench on YouTube and prepare to be amazed!
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The turbo housing is 3d printed!!!
So is the exhaust tail pipe, it's the largest 3d printed titanium piece in the world.
Imagine the heat the turbo housing goes through!
Awesome car too.
Over 1000nm of torque under 3k rpm lol imagine what that feels like!
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