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Old 13-02-2014, 09:59 AM
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Default Putting 2 Stroke in with Diesel

Whats thoughts on this?

A lot of people on the mondeo forum are putting 2 Stroke oil in with their diesel when they fill up (around 300ml to 50L IIRC) Apparently it has to be mineral oil and not synthetic oil.

My car has 115k on it now and has never had oil added so I don't see the point in this TBH?
Old 13-02-2014, 10:02 AM
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What year is your mondeo?

I put 2 stroke in with diesel on my 300tdi discovery. Made it quieter and less smog. Dare I say it feels a little pokier too.

I have used any old 2 stroke oil
Old 13-02-2014, 04:36 PM
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Ive never heard of this l0l.
Old 13-02-2014, 04:45 PM
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Get some Castrol R in it, if nothing else it'll smell awesome

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Old 13-02-2014, 05:04 PM
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I do it quite often. Cheap low ash mineral oil from Wilkos!
Makes the car silky smooth, sharper, smokes less and gets better fuel economy!
Old 13-02-2014, 05:29 PM
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As above, discussed on here several times.

Just be carefull incase VOSA dip the tank........
Old 13-02-2014, 05:35 PM
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I assume you can do this with most diesels then?
Old 13-02-2014, 05:39 PM
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Sounds interesting. Never heard of this before
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surely anything that reduces the lubricating properties of the diesel fuel in modern engines cant be good..

I know it's oil your adding but it's not designed for use in high pressure diesel pumps and being atomized through injectors..

not for me...

2p

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Originally Posted by AJC
What year is your mondeo?

I put 2 stroke in with diesel on my 300tdi discovery. Made it quieter and less smog. Dare I say it feels a little pokier too.

I have used any old 2 stroke oil
It's late 06 ST tdci
Old 13-02-2014, 06:52 PM
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2stroke is an excellent lubricant
It lubes an engine for thousands of miles at massive revs without any kind of sump
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Two stroke oil is perfectly legal for road use. It can't be illegal, how many two stroke bikes are on the road?

Years ago sulfur in diesels done all the lubricating needed. Unfortunately modern day diesels are generally low in sulfur so lubricate far less, couple in the use of Biodiesels and you have a fuel that lubricates far less than it used to. Garages use their own additive packages to increase cetane levels, to keep the engine clean and also to increase lubricity which is why diesel is never just diesel and quality does change from garage to garage.

Two stroke oil will help to lubricate fuel pumps, injectors and the upper cylinder. It also increases the cetane level of diesel so you get a cleaner burn.
Two stroke oil is a long term preventative maintenance additive. Used over time in correct dosages (1:200 is recommended I think) you will have increased the longevity of the engine and fuel system, increased fuel economy and have a cleaner engine all round.
Old 13-02-2014, 07:09 PM
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Yes ive herd of this and done it a few times ...
Old 13-02-2014, 07:18 PM
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Just a quick one, Mine has a DPF filter and if i mix a little 2 stroke oil in with the fuel would this cause problems ? Just asking out of interest because i have never heard of anyone doing this.
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Doin this on the avensis D4d for years, 216k on it now,
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People say about only a certain type of 2 stroke oil?

Esp recommend asda it wilco iirc tho we don't have that here in n.ireland abysst
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Cheapest mininel type, no synt or semi.....

High ash contents good.....
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You need low ash! Not high ash.
Old 13-02-2014, 08:47 PM
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never heard of this , when mines was a diesel I run it a few times on 50/50 veg oil /diesel and it was fine as above think it was quieter but it was still rather slow , I don't think modern diesels would like it much mind you too sensitive
Old 13-02-2014, 09:11 PM
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i use wilkos 2 stroke in my escort td i just put a splash in when i put fuel in. it does seem to make it run better when the engine is stone cold and idles better for sure.
Old 13-02-2014, 09:21 PM
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First time I've ever heard of this as well.

Interesting. When I get my 4x4 that will be run on veg oil.
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never heard of this! what's the thinking behind it?
Old 13-02-2014, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Doin this on the avensis D4d for years, 216k on it now,

Never done it on my Vaux Combo van, 350k on it now.
Old 13-02-2014, 09:52 PM
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My mate does it on his navara 4x4
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Been doing this on the Vectra cdti for 18 months...
Makes a difference... Makes it quieter, smoother...
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Originally Posted by bigchez
never heard of this! what's the thinking behind it?

Umm...


Originally Posted by Bailes1992
Two stroke oil is perfectly legal for road use. It can't be illegal, how many two stroke bikes are on the road?

Years ago sulfur in diesels done all the lubricating needed. Unfortunately modern day diesels are generally low in sulfur so lubricate far less, couple in the use of Biodiesels and you have a fuel that lubricates far less than it used to. Garages use their own additive packages to increase cetane levels, to keep the engine clean and also to increase lubricity which is why diesel is never just diesel and quality does change from garage to garage.

Two stroke oil will help to lubricate fuel pumps, injectors and the upper cylinder. It also increases the cetane level of diesel so you get a cleaner burn.
Two stroke oil is a long term preventative maintenance additive. Used over time in correct dosages (1:200 is recommended I think) you will have increased the longevity of the engine and fuel system, increased fuel economy and have a cleaner engine all round.
Old 14-02-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
Umm...
interessting, cheers.

will direct a couple of pals with aging mondeo's this way as sure they'd benefit.
Old 14-02-2014, 10:16 AM
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Done this afew times now, 50ml of 2stroke added per tank in a 1.6hdi Pug engine, idles smoother/quieter, is slightly better on fuel and feel abit more pokey too!
Old 14-02-2014, 10:26 AM
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So any 2 stroke oil will do? I'm guna try this in lasses golf gt tdi 2008 will it be ok and how do I put to a tank full cheers
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Originally Posted by Rogeyboy
Done this afew times now, 50ml of 2stroke added per tank in a 1.6hdi Pug engine, idles smoother/quieter, is slightly better on fuel and feel abit more pokey too!
Would that be the same for all Diesel engines then? Size wise?
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Dont quote me on amount per tank... I just put a "shot" down the fuel neck before i fill up!
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I'll try this on the mrs dti corsa as above just a small amount to a tank ?
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A shot of low ash mineral oil (only mineral oil) and quiets it up and runs smoother.

I'm sold!
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I'm laid to believe 300ml per 50 litres.
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1:200 ratio if I remember right!
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I'm off to fill up and get some 2 stroke
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I chuck 250ml ish to a tank, sometimes alittle more for good luck...
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So is this ok for any diesel car, won't bugger up modern pumps/injection systems etc? Might sling some in my mondeo see what happens. Only problem is its got one of those cap less filler necks so think you've got to mess about with a special funnel or something to put any additives in the tank.
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There is a black plastic funnel in the spare wheel well.
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i do this. i got some castrol 2 stroke from Tesco's cheap and bought all the stock they had in the shop - only 5 bottles but a quid each!

keeps engine a lot quieter and reduces smoke. happy days


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