Just heard on another forum that classic ford is enforcing no cars over the year of 1990 on any stands unless it is an escort Cosworth and no other make of cars on the stands apart from fords.

That is classic ford but at central day we are listened to all of the feedback that people gave us last year and are pushing forward to make it better. This year you don't have to have a ford to go into the stand and we have invited all different kind of car clubs to the show and to try and get more variety.

Cheers

Tones (central group)

 

I cant see that happening for the classic ford show tbh.

 

Ask the main man

 

It's on the car club forums on face book one chap tried to book a stand for his group love for ford Derbyshire group who posted it up he has Spock to them twice and that's what they say so im going by what he he has said so I don't no if it is true it's a bit harsh

 

Direct from horses mouth

Hello Dojj,

Cheers,

Simon

 

From the organisers -

"Unfortunately, due to complaints from clubs and attendees, for 2014 we have reviewed our policy regarding the age of cars displayed at the Classic Ford Show. The show is a celebration of classic Ford models circa 25 years and older, and as such, we are now unable to accept display stand bookings from clubs that represent Fords outside of these guidelines. Bookings from clubs that are clearly not classic models may be rejected. Clubs that have a mix of slightly newer cars may be placed on the periphery of the main displays. . The organisers of the Classic Ford Show retain the right to refuse entry to any unsuitable vehicles."


I struggle to see how people find this hard to accept.

The show is very popular, and always over subscribed with club cars, so some are turned away. If you had your mint Mk1 Escort resto turned away, only to see Mondeos and Focusses in prime spots, you'd be understandably aggrieved. Likewise, if you've paid good money to attend the show, you want to look at Classics, not moderns.

 

Totally agree with the new proposal, why would anyone going to classic ford show want to see all the new boring stuff that you see at all the other ford shows! It used to be a great show but has really fell off in the last few years imo, and a large part of that being that so much of what was on show wasnt classic!

 

That cleared that up then!

Agreed.

Having worked for Classic Ford magazine for a number of years, we always got so much back lash from people/forums complaining there were too many modern cars there and that it should be governed. Seems it now will be, so there should be less complaints.

 

Totally agree Dan

 

I have no issues with classic fords guidelines as its only right that the older cars get priority as I was on the phone yesterday to the lads at the booking office, we on passionford are blessed with a diverse mixture of cars from many eras which is the great thing about being a any model of ford forum, the rule applys to all these post 1990 car clubs like the stoc or focus rs clubs etc and the like which think their club stand should be bang in the middle of the classic area just because they have plenty of members, well done classic ford I say

 

Ultimately it will come down to the Club event organisers telling members with non-Classics that they're more than welcome to come to the show - but they simply can't show their cars. There's a perfectly good carpark which they can use instead.

 

you can see noses being put out of joint Dan especially the stoc/ frs lot but 2013s was so ram packed with some classic only clubs on the edges which was wrong as all the classic fords should take centre stage and then fill in the edges to suit

 

Be interesting to see if there's as much backlash from the modern owners saying it isn't fair etc... compared to what the old skool lot have been saying about the modern stuff for the last few years.

 

Cant see it affecting the show much as its always full of classics and you only see a few modern fords about. Glad the fiesta is 30 this year

 

Its classic ford ? Theres plenty room on the car parks
For newer stuff

 

It was packed last year so maybe the new rules will also free up a bit of space.

They could always park the newer stuff in the same area on the grass thus still creating a Ford Area as such. Will still be a cracking show either way

 

simon wrote an unofficial reply which was, virtually, word for word what dan posted moments later

i WAS going to post it but simon said not to quote him until it was "officially official" so i didn't want to put words in the horses mouth so to speak

so will the stand forms now dictate which cars "qualify" for a stand space and which will be excluded?

would be a bit shit to have your car accepted to be on a stand and then the bloke at the door telling you to bugger off because it wasn't on his list wouldn't it so how is that going to be governed?

and how about those people who have already booked stand spaces with their car clubs? refund time? credit to go to another show? not thought that far into the future yet? etc?

i know you don't work there anymore so this bit is aimed at simon/dan/jamie/futureists/etc

 

dojj the organisers are not saying modern cars are not welcome at the event more a case of giving the classics priority and if theres room then they have the right to accept or decline entrys, mixed stand attendees like passionford who have cars from many eras will be on the edge of a show rather than slap bang in the middle which is totally fair, all modern ford based clubs will not be as welcome for the obvious reasons

 

So why are so many people getting upset then steve?

Its probably just people getting upset and flustered because that's what they do

Perhaps something along the lines of "pre 85 cars get priority and then pre 95 cars and everything else needs to be outside would be better?

 

because most are dummy spitting keyboard warriors Dojj and don't even go to shows as regular as us anyway, so have jumped on a internet band wagon as per usual lol 25yrs old is pre 89, Passionford will prob be on the edge of the show and if that happens I will have no issues as its only right as we have cars from the 60s right up to brand new which allows us a stand

 

Clue is in the title of the show classic ford lol surely its not hard to understand

 

So the newer fords can still put there cars on show but the older fords have priority? ??

 

Totally agree its Classic ford so should only be classics you dont see many if any classics on stands at other shows during year! Classic is the best show in my opinion! 1 question does this also affect the strip as i think see the old cars smash the new cars is comical so funny!

 

"Unfortunately, due to complaints from clubs and attendees, for 2014 we have reviewed our policy regarding the age of cars displayed at the Classic Ford Show. The show is a celebration of classic Ford models circa 25 years and older, and as such, we are now unable to accept display stand bookings from clubs that represent Fords outside of these guidelines. Bookings from clubs that are clearly not classic models may be rejected. Clubs that have a mix of slightly newer cars may be placed on the periphery of the main displays. . The organisers of the Classic Ford Show retain the right to refuse entry to any unsuitable vehicles."

I think this covers that Glenn as clubs that are just post 1989 have no place really at classic ford

 

New Fords will be actively discouraged, and clubs that want to display new cars will be at the very edges of the show away from the clubs showing actual classic cars.

The majority of the show goers, and the exhibitors attend the show because they're into Classics. They don't want to see Focus', Mondeos or whatever. The clue's kind of in the name Glenn!

 

It's absolutely no idea, and to be fair, I suspect it's the minority who are kicking off. Modern cars have NO place being displayed at the Classic Show, there's a perfectly good carpark where they can park.

We also run Japshow, and the Performance Vauxhall Show. Apart from one or two that sneak in, the Jap and Vauxhall boys totally get it, and never have any issue with it being Jap, or Vauxhall only. For some reason when it comes to Fords common sense leaves the room, and people seem to think it's fine to bring non-Fords to Ford Fair, and non-Classics to the Classic show.

There shouldn't need to be rules and regulations, nor marshals having to turn cars away. If it's a Ford it's welcome at Ford Fair. If it's a Classic Ford it's welcome at Classic Ford Show - If it's not in those categories, then please don't expect to be able to put the car on a stand, and don't be offended when you're asked to park the car in the car park.

 

Dan, to save me making a call to Si, what's the coo with Cosworths do you know? OP mentioned Cosworths are the exception, being as they are on changeover years, is this correct?

 

There are no 'exceptions' as such. Any clubs who need it clarifying should call the booking line.

 

Thanks

 

I've not been to classic ford but maybe this year I might get the chance, but I totally get the fact that it should be for older Fords, thats what I would pay to see! And I have a 1992 Sapphire Cosworth so technically wouldnt be able to show it, but thats fine, i respect those rules! I dont see what the problem is, just the same as the whole Ford Fair issue with non-Fords turning up! If its not a Ford dont expect it to be included on a stand!

 

you could still be a part of a wider spectrum car stand like ours, last year 60% of our cars were 25yrs and older and best car on our stand was a 1963 cortina , so for us it simply means we will be on the outskirts due to some of the later models which is fine with me as the theme of the show must come first and placement on the front row of our club stand is always oldest 1st, I have got tough this year with PFs stand criteria at classic ford & ford fair as too many take the p*ss and sign up just for a parking spot which has now stopped!, I am personally vetting all ticket buyers and their cars and pf regulars will get priority over all

 

So I couldnt show my 1991 saff cossie there then.

 

my reply above applys to you too Glenn

 

Might be worth checking with the booking team to clarify.

 

Yeh as Dan said Steve have a word with them and see what they say. I would like to show my car at the classic ford show.

 

For how busy it gets, maybe being on the edge will be a bonus when coming to get out ?

Same as I posted on the RSOC, we have created a monster on the Internet by scaring people into leaving their cars in the car park thus creating car park stands.
I guarantee someone would post, it's not safe in the car park at any show anywhere in the country ???

 

Cant see them banning cossies from the show though seeing as you can get classic car insurance for them

 

so my 89 saph will be ok then

Steve

 

thats a point to if a particular car was released before 90 but carried on in production for another 2 years after 90 surely they can still be ok

 

Hope so Steve cus mine is too