AN hoses and Fittings?
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Right I bought a load of bits and pieces to make up my oil feed, a few AN4 fittings and a length of AN4 hose. I presumed AN4 hose would fit into AN4 fittings but the hose is way too small.
I asked the guy I bought the fittings from what size I needed and he just wrote "you can try AN5...."
Anyone have a definitive answer?
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I asked the guy I bought the fittings from what size I needed and he just wrote "you can try AN5...."
Anyone have a definitive answer?
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Give Minirotty a meassage or he might see this and answer your question.He is actually doing stuff like this on his car.He is a knowledgable bloke with stuff like this
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If you buy -4 fittings the hose needs to be -4 also, whoever your seller is sounds a dick tbh.
Who is the seller?
Torques on eBay are good with great customer service too, those and HoseFittingsUK.
I have only recently started learning all the JIC/AN fitting sizes myself so I know how confusing it can be.
Who is the seller?
Torques on eBay are good with great customer service too, those and HoseFittingsUK.
I have only recently started learning all the JIC/AN fitting sizes myself so I know how confusing it can be.
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i HATE braided hoses,,,, after doing my fuel system, oil coolerand breather system on my impreza,,,, the fucking pain fitting them stupid hoses into the caps,,,, oil cooler with remote housing was a proper cunt with sizes
Enjoy and DONT add up the cost after !!!!!
Enjoy and DONT add up the cost after !!!!!
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If you buy -4 fittings the hose needs to be -4 also, whoever your seller is sounds a dick tbh.
Who is the seller?
Torques on eBay are good with great customer service too, those and HoseFittingsUK.
I have only recently started learning all the JIC/AN fitting sizes myself so I know how confusing it can be.
Who is the seller?
Torques on eBay are good with great customer service too, those and HoseFittingsUK.
I have only recently started learning all the JIC/AN fitting sizes myself so I know how confusing it can be.
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Haha I gave up on adding up ages ago. Makes me feel better by not thinking about it
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They are the wrong fittings for that pipe. Looks like Teflon from the picture
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-AN4-S...item53fdccb423
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-AN4-S...item53fdccb423
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They are the wrong fittings for that pipe. Looks like Teflon from the picture
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-AN4-S...item53fdccb423
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-AN4-S...item53fdccb423
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I done that mistake,,,, 5 metres of Teflon and 14 -6 fittings
Used it all in the end,,,,, that's 10 metres of fuel hose plus more on my car 😳
Rubber STAINLESS braided hose use a hot water as mentioned or wrap hose and cut with fine angle grinder blade and if quick enough it fits
Used it all in the end,,,,, that's 10 metres of fuel hose plus more on my car 😳
Rubber STAINLESS braided hose use a hot water as mentioned or wrap hose and cut with fine angle grinder blade and if quick enough it fits
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Rubber is fine for fuel, just not ideal or recommended if that fuel line is inside the cabin.
And you shouldnt mix and match different manufacturers hoses and fittings. All hoses of similar appearance and claiming similar or even the same size/construction, are NOT always the same.
Quite often they will interchange, but it is not certain.
And you shouldnt mix and match different manufacturers hoses and fittings. All hoses of similar appearance and claiming similar or even the same size/construction, are NOT always the same.
Quite often they will interchange, but it is not certain.
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Don't do it with that cheap stuff on eBay.
I learned that lesson the hard way.
Once you start working with Goodridge stuff you'll appreciate why cheap stuff is cheap & others are more expensive.
Fuel & oil supply aren't areas to cut costs, & expensive as it seems now, it's worth doing it properly. Doing my brakes (complete system with pedal box), oil & fuel lines with goodridge stuff cost significantly over £1k . Like others I stopped adding it up v early!
Cheers
Iain
I learned that lesson the hard way.
Once you start working with Goodridge stuff you'll appreciate why cheap stuff is cheap & others are more expensive.
Fuel & oil supply aren't areas to cut costs, & expensive as it seems now, it's worth doing it properly. Doing my brakes (complete system with pedal box), oil & fuel lines with goodridge stuff cost significantly over £1k . Like others I stopped adding it up v early!
Cheers
Iain
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Yeah I have heard it's not the best idea to mix brands but I think the marginal difference in tolerances between manufacturers is not enough to mean you will get a bad seal.
And torques are very good, I would recommend using them all day long. Stuff arrived next day and very good quality
And torques are very good, I would recommend using them all day long. Stuff arrived next day and very good quality
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Don't do it with that cheap stuff on eBay.
I learned that lesson the hard way.
Once you start working with Goodridge stuff you'll appreciate why cheap stuff is cheap & others are more expensive.
Fuel & oil supply aren't areas to cut costs, & expensive as it seems now, it's worth doing it properly. Doing my brakes (complete system with pedal box), oil & fuel lines with goodridge stuff cost significantly over £1k . Like others I stopped adding it up v early!
Cheers
Iain
I learned that lesson the hard way.
Once you start working with Goodridge stuff you'll appreciate why cheap stuff is cheap & others are more expensive.
Fuel & oil supply aren't areas to cut costs, & expensive as it seems now, it's worth doing it properly. Doing my brakes (complete system with pedal box), oil & fuel lines with goodridge stuff cost significantly over £1k . Like others I stopped adding it up v early!
Cheers
Iain
im interested to know what your bad experience is ?
ive seen cheepo stuff and ok its fiddly but not heard of failure with the torques stuff
and not seen much difference with my goodridge AN10 and my torques AN10 on my oil cooler set up
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Yeah I have heard it's not the best idea to mix brands but I think the marginal difference in tolerances between manufacturers is not enough to mean you will get a bad seal.
And torques are very good, I would recommend using them all day long. Stuff arrived next day and very good quality
And torques are very good, I would recommend using them all day long. Stuff arrived next day and very good quality
Different fitting types require different hose sizes. Different hose types have different bores and different construction...ie different outside diameters.
So there are just many many varieties, and nothing to do with any tolerances. They are just different.
Some brands go out of their way to ensure actual hole diameter in any fittings is as large as possible, to ensure flow is not restricted. Others dont really care.
Likewise internal passages. Some tight fittings the cheaper brands will just bore at right angles with no smoothing to aid flow.
Ive used a lot of Torques stuff and Earls. Earls is the better quality, especially their hose.
Is Torques better value ? absolutely and for about 95% of stuff recently I've been using theirs. But I will still be paying the extra for Earls when needed.
And by far Earls have a much wider variety of fittings.
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It isnt a case of tolerances.
Different fitting types require different hose sizes. Different hose types have different bores and different construction...ie different outside diameters.
So there are just many many varieties, and nothing to do with any tolerances. They are just different.
Some brands go out of their way to ensure actual hole diameter in any fittings is as large as possible, to ensure flow is not restricted. Others dont really care.
Likewise internal passages. Some tight fittings the cheaper brands will just bore at right angles with no smoothing to aid flow.
Ive used a lot of Torques stuff and Earls. Earls is the better quality, especially their hose.
Is Torques better value ? absolutely and for about 95% of stuff recently I've been using theirs. But I will still be paying the extra for Earls when needed.
And by far Earls have a much wider variety of fittings.
You know what I'm after.. a boost pipe with a bung for the ist sensor already on it.. any ideas?
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If you mean air temp....given there are many different fitments and thread sizes, doubt there will be anything generic.
But if you contacted the likes of Viper I'm sure they would have something. But you'd need to know the actual fitment of whatever sensor you wanted to use.
But if you contacted the likes of Viper I'm sure they would have something. But you'd need to know the actual fitment of whatever sensor you wanted to use.
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If you mean air temp....given there are many different fitments and thread sizes, doubt there will be anything generic.
But if you contacted the likes of Viper I'm sure they would have something. But you'd need to know the actual fitment of whatever sensor you wanted to use.
But if you contacted the likes of Viper I'm sure they would have something. But you'd need to know the actual fitment of whatever sensor you wanted to use.
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Viper do these sort of thing, which if you got the right size could be drilled and tapped.
http://www.viperperformance.co.uk/pr...hp?xscId=10094
Although welded into a boost pipe might be the safest solution.
http://www.viperperformance.co.uk/pr...hp?xscId=10094
Although welded into a boost pipe might be the safest solution.
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That's pretty good! Although I still don't believe you would get a 100% air tight fit.
Will probably weld tbh.
Would if just bought the FED elbow but then means I have to buy the throttle body :/
Will probably weld tbh.
Would if just bought the FED elbow but then means I have to buy the throttle body :/
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That's pretty good! Although I still don't believe you would get a 100% air tight fit.
Will probably weld tbh.
Would of just bought the FRS elbow but then means I have to buy the throttle body :/
Will probably weld tbh.
Would of just bought the FRS elbow but then means I have to buy the throttle body :/
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