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Old 17-12-2013 | 12:20 PM
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After replying to another thread saying good transits could be had at sensible cash and how nothing had went wrong with mine blah blah I get into the van after it been parked up for a week and there is no clutch peddle well it's there but it's doing nothing.

Anyone any ideas I don't think it's the clutch it's self there is a bit of peddle but the biting point is non existent as I had to start it in gear and I tried going round the block but to no avail
Old 17-12-2013 | 12:34 PM
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does it help if you pump the clutch?

It should be a hydraulic clutch (although you haven't said what year it is), so it'd expect it's something on that side of things. Any leaks under the van where it was parked?
Old 17-12-2013 | 01:18 PM
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It's a 53 plate I tried pumping it but never made much difference there is nothing where it's parked that's not to say fluid may not of leaked last time I used it maybe it's got low over time maybe? Is there an easy way of checking?
Old 17-12-2013 | 01:34 PM
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They share the same reservoir as the brakes, so you'd know if it had lost as the level would be low.

Could always try bleeding it to see if fluid is getting through?
Old 17-12-2013 | 02:01 PM
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I had that on mine, been using it all day (delivering parcels) went to put it into gear when the clutch peddle went straight to the floor! Looked underneath and the slave cylinder shat itself so check that out first mate
Old 17-12-2013 | 02:14 PM
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There is no such thing as a "Cheap Van"

Remember they are Work Horses and need to WORK

All you will be doing is buying someone else's troubles as there is always a reason for a "Cheap price"

I should know, I bought a Van Ł1500 less than all the others I looked at.....Bargain for two weeks until the engine let go !!!

Ł1500 later its back on the road!!

lessen learnt

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Old 17-12-2013 | 02:37 PM
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I bought this van 2 year ago for Ł1800 it has service history upto 100k only on 110 now so needs a service after Christmas so I'd say it's been a good van has cost me no more than Ł100 so far including putting it through an mot so I'd say it's been a cheap van this clutch thing doesn't sound as though it's gonna sting much thankfully but even a new clutch wouldn't of made me feel stung on the original deal so vans can be had for a good deal

Is the slave cylinder a easy fix? Or am I just better putting it in a garage I have limited mechanical skills like doing pads discs bolt on and off parts so pretty limited knowledge really
Old 17-12-2013 | 04:14 PM
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It could be a number of things but if you have got breakdown cover or home start give them a call as the aa and rac that cover my works vans are always spot on at finding the faults on out 07 plate upwards transits, I've had one where I drove 50 miles down the a12 in the same gear got to my turnoff went to change gear and the pedal was sat on the floor, that turned out to be burst pipe in the bell housing causing the clutch fluid to go everywhere
Old 17-12-2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by boy-racer-1
It could be a number of things but if you have got breakdown cover or home start give them a call as the aa and rac that cover my works vans are always spot on at finding the faults on out 07 plate upwards transits, I've had one where I drove 50 miles down the a12 in the same gear got to my turnoff went to change gear and the pedal was sat on the floor, that turned out to be burst pipe in the bell housing causing the clutch fluid to go everywhere
Good call I have AA cover should just ring them since I pay for the cover
Old 17-12-2013 | 06:18 PM
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Piece of piss to change a master cylinder.
Old 17-12-2013 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Piece of piss to change a master cylinder.
Maybe, but it's way down on the list of what it's likely to be.

Chances are, it's the CSC (concentric slave cylinder). It's basically the end of the system and does the job, hydraulically, of you putting your foot on the clutch. It sits in the bell housing of the gearbox, so to change it you need to remove the gearbox.

It's one of 'them jobs' where if you're slipping the 'box off, may as well do the rest of the clutch while you're at it.

If it is the CSC, you'd be very likely to be experiencing fluid loss
Old 17-12-2013 | 07:38 PM
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if its rear wheel drive it wont have a concentric slave cylinder it will be on the outside of the box and just twists into the bell housing, piece of piss to fit and bleed and they are about Ł15
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Originally Posted by botters
if its rear wheel drive it wont have a concentric slave cylinder it will be on the outside of the box and just twists into the bell housing, piece of piss to fit and bleed and they are about Ł15
Cheers for cheering me up especially at this time of year the previous post sounded a tad sore especially this month lol

It is rear wheel drive
Old 17-12-2013 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by turbochild
Cheers for cheering me up especially at this time of year the previous post sounded a tad sore especially this month lol

It is rear wheel drive
That's a good result then
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Originally Posted by badj
Maybe, but it's way down on the list of what it's likely to be.

Chances are, it's the CSC (concentric slave cylinder). It's basically the end of the system and does the job, hydraulically, of you putting your foot on the clutch. It sits in the bell housing of the gearbox, so to change it you need to remove the gearbox.

It's one of 'them jobs' where if you're slipping the 'box off, may as well do the rest of the clutch while you're at it.

If it is the CSC, you'd be very likely to be experiencing fluid loss
Yeh I know.... I work on trannys most days.
Old 18-12-2013 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Yeh I know.... I work on trannys most days.
The explanation was for the OP, but perhaps in future it'd be more constructive to share your experience by giving out helpful advice rather than getting offended by people who do.


For the OP, both clutch master and slave are about Ł20 or so each and as botters mentioned, RWD Transits are far simpler - clutch slave just moves the clutch fork from the side of the bellhousing. The clutch master cylinder is just bolted under the pedal and through the bulkhead and neither job really needs any special tools as long as you've got patience, a socket set and something to bleed the air out after.

If you need any help or diagrams just ask - helps save some ŁŁ at this time of year
Old 20-12-2013 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by badj
The explanation was for the OP, but perhaps in future it'd be more constructive to share your experience by giving out helpful advice rather than getting offended by people who do.


For the OP, both clutch master and slave are about Ł20 or so each and as botters mentioned, RWD Transits are far simpler - clutch slave just moves the clutch fork from the side of the bellhousing. The clutch master cylinder is just bolted under the pedal and through the bulkhead and neither job really needs any special tools as long as you've got patience, a socket set and something to bleed the air out after.

If you need any help or diagrams just ask - helps save some ŁŁ at this time of year
Cheers mate I haven't had chance to look at it yet but gonna try deal with it on Sunday
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I didnt get offened I never do.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
I didnt get offened I never do.

i feel offended now.
Old 20-12-2013 | 07:35 PM
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Dont matey lol.
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Im offended that you didnt get offended but someone else did ......
Old 21-12-2013 | 08:44 AM
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Fpmsl ha ha ha.
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