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Old 22-04-2013, 11:21 AM
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How would you go about it?

What works? Doesn't work?

Things you'd avoid, things you couldn't do without etc?

Just interested to see how different people would go about it seeing as there must be 1000's of 500bhp cossies been built of the years (20+!!!)

Think it could be an interesting thread

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Old 22-04-2013, 11:33 AM
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Deep pockets to start
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Your not wrong lol!
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std crank & rods
6 long studded 200 block, ideally linered if it's at .5
cp pistons (not mega low comp though!)
well worked head, 26/25 ports
double valve springs
WRC gasket
take tuner's advice on cams as its to their timing, but I'd probably expect a bd16
big gt30 ext gate on reyland modded 2 wd exh manifold, or one of the new gtx/bw series on a suitable manifold
management to suit tuner & their preference

at 500 hp its the supporting mods that cost too - fuel pump, breather system, the best i/c you can afford, gearbox & diff upgrade, rear beam, clutch & hydraulic conversion, ap brakes, etc.
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No need to change rods? I'm guessing you'd use arp bolts too?
Old 23-04-2013, 06:59 AM
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T4 , 8 greens on a gen rs500 inlette

Nuff said
Old 23-04-2013, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RS500 Registrar
T4 , 8 greens on a gen rs500 inlette

Nuff said


Old school

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Old 23-04-2013, 07:34 AM
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Take it to Harvey!!
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200 block
6 long studs
MLS hg
CP Pistons
Std comp of 8:1
Bit of headwork
Hart inlet
MAD inlet cam, std exhaust cam
Twin scroll manifold
Smallest Borg Warner twin scroll available
Modern management

Would piss 500hp and 500lb/ft, and be very responsive

But you've probably just spent Ł10k+
Old 23-04-2013, 08:32 AM
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Drive it to MSD, leave it there, get banned from driving on the way home
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I will have a 500bhp cos one day, but this bloody mortgage is making it difficult lol!
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Originally Posted by JamesH
200 block
6 long studs
MLS hg
CP Pistons
Std comp of 8:1
Bit of headwork
Hart inlet
MAD inlet cam, std exhaust cam
Twin scroll manifold
Smallest Borg Warner twin scroll available
Modern management

Would piss 500hp and 500lb/ft, and be very responsive

But you've probably just spent Ł10k+

Explain twin scroll... As I have no idea what that even means!
Old 23-04-2013, 09:02 AM
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http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-09.../photo_02.html

It divides up the exhaust gases in pairs of cylinders, and this gives better spool
Old 23-04-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bigchez
at 500 hp its the supporting mods that cost too - fuel pump, breather system, the best i/c you can afford, gearbox & diff upgrade, rear beam, clutch & hydraulic conversion, ap brakes, etc.
+1 couldn't agree more mate
Old 23-04-2013, 09:22 AM
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just do your bike licence instead and spend 5 grand on a k6 gsxr 1000 lol
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Originally Posted by JamesH
http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-09.../photo_02.html

It divides up the exhaust gases in pairs of cylinders, and this gives better spool
Oh right I know the ones you mean now. Never knew what the two sections were for though.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
just do your bike licence instead and spend 5 grand on a k6 gsxr 1000 lol
Can't stand bikes, but I know what you mean. Got murdered on the M1 comin back from pod by a R1. Didn't expect anything else tbh lol
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Originally Posted by RS500 Registrar
T4 , 8 greens on a gen rs500 inlette

Nuff said
Nothing better in my eyes

Old 23-04-2013, 09:56 AM
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Jim, I was dribbling over yours on Sunday mate. Fair play!

Didn't spot you about tho or would of said hello.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Nothing better in my eyes

The only thing good from the 80s is the music turbos are not.

Mark
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The only thing good from the 80s is the music turbos are not.

Mark
i agree mark, that yb making 2.5 bar at 3500 rpm and 500hp/500lbft on a bw efr shows how far things have come along since the t4.
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T4??? That's a terminal at Heathrow isn't it?!?!?!?! Or a channel on TV maybe???!!!

MA Developments 2ltr YB. Borgwarner EFR 7064 turbo. If you want a RESPONSIVE 500hp YB then...................... I'll let the graphs do the talking



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That's a very impressive graph must pull like a train on the road!
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All I've been hearing and reading about are these new BW turbos.

Why? What have they done that is so much better than the garrett gt/x range?
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Lovely and responsive fella but peaks at 5900rpm mine pulls from 3800 full boost and peaks power at 7-7.5 and drops fractionally at 8k so a massive power band

The t4 is old hat no denying and there are much better turbos I completely agree but there is nothing like a old school Yb in a 2wd saff I wouldn't change mine for the world!
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The only thing good from the 80s is the music turbos are not.

Mark
The music was no good either I know the t4 isn't great but it's that old school feel that I'm after and the t4 is iconic 80s cossie
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
just do your bike licence instead and spend 5 grand on a k6 gsxr 1000 lol
Spot on
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I love my T4, full boost just after 4k all the way to 8.5k
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I personally love T4 setups too, I'm with Jimbo on this, yes the BW i know are great, been in an Evo with one, but if i were going for 480-500+ I'd go T4 too, my money, my choice.

Plus i loved the 80s
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
I wouldn't change mine for the world!
We shall see when you are crippled by the cost of repeatedly buying new rear tyres after you leave 2 black lines everywhere
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Done fifty miles to fifty quid fuel on saturday so far tyres are on the way down but at the moment I don't care, I'm sure a few tanks and a set of tyres down the line I'll calm down
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Originally Posted by wozzy
T4??? That's a terminal at Heathrow isn't it?!?!?!?! Or a channel on TV maybe???!!!

MA Developments 2ltr YB. Borgwarner EFR 7064 turbo. If you want a RESPONSIVE 500hp YB then...................... I'll let the graphs do the talking




very impressive, lets not forget aswell this dyno run is on dyno dynamics rollers so there will be even less lag in the real world.
imagine that engine on an engine dyno or dynapack that curve would be left even further !
very impressive result imo.
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Lovely and responsive fella but peaks at 5900rpm mine pulls from 3800 full boost and peaks power at 7-7.5 and drops fractionally at 8k so a massive power band

The t4 is old hat no denying and there are much better turbos I completely agree but there is nothing like a old school Yb in a 2wd saff I wouldn't change mine for the world!
A diff exhaust cam would benafit that engine with no losses at the bottom.

Mark
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t4 carnt wait to test mine out
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Originally Posted by dingla rs
t4 carnt wait to test mine out
+1
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That's great power and torque

What's rest of the spec ?
Originally Posted by wozzy
T4??? That's a terminal at Heathrow isn't it?!?!?!?! Or a channel on TV maybe???!!!

MA Developments 2ltr YB. Borgwarner EFR 7064 turbo. If you want a RESPONSIVE 500hp YB then...................... I'll let the graphs do the talking



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Strange all this T4 talk. Its totally outdated by whats out there now. Ive had them all so know whats what. The new Borgs are simply on a totally different planet. Mark has not done enough Cossies yet but his EVO specs are simply awesome using the Borgs. Of course a T4 works but so does a 1948 Morris Minor.
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Originally Posted by Billy_RS
All I've been hearing and reading about are these new BW turbos.

Why? What have they done that is so much better than the garrett gt/x range?

The design of the GT range is prob over 10years old with just a update on the comp wheel so hardly cutting edge today,
The BW EFR is about 3 years old now so current up to date tech and market leaders until someone else puts some effort in to it and hopes to improve.

Mark
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Originally Posted by wozzy
T4??? That's a terminal at Heathrow isn't it?!?!?!?! Or a channel on TV maybe???!!!

MA Developments 2ltr YB. Borgwarner EFR 7064 turbo. If you want a RESPONSIVE 500hp YB then...................... I'll let the graphs do the talking



Impressive
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The design of the GT range is prob over 10years old with just a update on the comp wheel so hardly cutting edge today,
The BW EFR is about 3 years old now so current up to date tech and market leaders until someone else puts some effort in to it and hopes to improve.

Mark
will be interesting to see if a borg warner wins ta this year or will it be the out dated garrett? in the pro class anyway,3 years old and been out approx 1?

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