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Old 15-02-2013, 07:35 PM
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Right after my last post regarding my engine spec shopping list Matt Lewis has come back with some good prices BUT i wanna make sure im getting the right stuff as back in the 90s we used to stick a massive turbo on and a adjustable boost valve and off we went

I would like to see 400bhp at the wheels so going for full engine rebuild with uprated bolts, bearings, 0.5 oversized pistons, group a gaskets etc also thinking airtec alloy rad & 60mm intercooler with siemens 55lb blacks and gt30 turbo, 3 bar map sensor, group a induction, uprated inlet cam, verniers, & a map by someone in the know! Do i need to do anything regarding the ECU?

Any help on this would be most appreciated
Old 15-02-2013, 07:56 PM
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Speak to your tuner regarding your spec and ask their advice. ECU shouldnt need any modifying

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Old 15-02-2013, 07:59 PM
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As above, who isgoing to map it and what managment are you going to use? Is this the engine pete is building?
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as above re ECU, but if you're having a new build the block & head should be flat so I'd go WRC/MLS gasket for peace of mind, and prob 6 long studs.

Edit - may as well get cut out's machined into pistons for cams too while you're at it.

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As your in Southampton your best bet is to speak to m.a.developments it's about 45 mins away from you! Top advise and he will spec you what you need
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^^^^^ good advice^^^^^^

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I would get a thicker intercooler to start with.

Also if your staying with the standard ECU get a L8

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Cheers for the reply guys i was gonna ask of tuners local to me so might give M A Developments a ring.
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Originally Posted by robp-tt
As above, who isgoing to map it and what managment are you going to use? Is this the engine pete is building?
Probably M A Developments as they seem the closest. Had a few people say the managment shouldn`t need to be changed but not sure about this?
Yes pete is building this for me, Do you know him?
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STD 200 block inc 6 long stud, 4x4 pistons with valve cutouts, std/std crank, decent bearings etc, decent inlet cam and double springs.

WRC head gasket

Speak to M.A regarding turbo and management and injectors as i wouldn't fit 55's with a GT30 size blower
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As above, I don't think 55lb injectors will see you the 400hp at the wheels that you are after
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Right i think im decided know, let me know what you think ?

Full engine rebuild using group a everything and arp bolts all over
0.5 oversized pistons with valve cutouts
double valve springs
Bd 8 & Bd 14 cams
verniers
siemens 55 blacks
group a induction
group a fuel pump
t34.63 turbo
alloy rad
60mm alloy intercooler
live map

Looking for 400bhp so hopefully this will see it
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400bhp at the flywheel that is
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dont use arp head studs
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Would you not see 400bhp on std internals, surely it would be close?

t34.63
Greys
Rs500 intercooler
3 bar map sensor

and a live map on the correct chip?

Providing your engine is sound why go to all the expense?
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Originally Posted by costina
dont use arp head studs

Gonna use standard bud
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
Would you not see 400bhp on std internals, surely it would be close?

t34.63
Greys
Rs500 intercooler
3 bar map sensor

and a live map on the correct chip?

Providing your engine is sound why go to all the expense?
True but wanna have the option to go more without taking the engine to bits again!
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where in southampton you from Rich?
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Been looking at a t04b Turbo. These anygood for 400bhp? much lag? Not heard of one before.
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
where in southampton you from Rich?
Surley you must know me Chris??
Old 21-02-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3drRich
Surley you must know me Chris??
Must do! Am i being a bit of a nob here? Do i know a Rich with a 3dr?

IF I DO......... THEN GET ROUND HERE AND TAKE ME OUT FOR A SPIN!
Old 21-02-2013, 08:00 PM
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I would have a hard job bud its just a bare shell in the garage at the min

LEC PROJECTS??????????
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Originally Posted by 3drRich
I would have a hard job bud its just a bare shell in the garage at the min

LEC PROJECTS??????????
ahahahaha! Last convo we had you said that you cant be bothered with toys anymore..... get it sorted! Good luck with it fella, need anything?
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Ive got 3 or 4 3dr blocks here if you want to go .25 btw. All crack free.
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
ahahahaha! Last convo we had you said that you cant be bothered with toys anymore..... get it sorted! Good luck with it fella, need anything?

Very true mate but no matter what i look at i always end up back in a cossie

Dont need nothing at the minute bud, just getting ready to paint the old girl OH and doing my plums on the lump LOL

Your p100 looking awesome bud whats next???
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
Ive got 3 or 4 3dr blocks here if you want to go .25 btw. All crack free.

Jesus you collecting em????

just had my block bored to 0.5 , skimmed just waiting for matt lewis`s arrival now

Was gonna buy a built motor running 450bhp but wanna keep the engine numbers etc all the same.
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Need any bits for yours i got another shell here and most panels for a 3dr??
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Is it not worth dropping the CR slightly?
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Originally Posted by 3drRich
Need any bits for yours i got another shell here and most panels for a 3dr??
Yeah mate, I could do with a pair for grille brackets, a pas bottle bracket and a heater surround panel thingy bulk head jobo. A few other odd and sods.

Oh and a matching set of locks
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Originally Posted by Sausage
Is it not worth dropping the CR slightly?
CR ? am i being a din??
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
Yeah mate, I could do with a pair for grille brackets, a pas bottle bracket and a heater surround panel thingy bulk head jobo. A few other odd and sods.

Oh and a matching set of locks
I only really have panels at the minute bud till i put mine back together!
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Originally Posted by 3drRich
CR ? am i being a din??
Compression ratio mate.
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Originally Posted by DixieTheKid
Compression ratio mate.
Yep DIN lol
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You'll be lucky to get siemens 55lb they have stopped making these now that's why i'm going greys on my upgrade
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Speak to msd regarding injectors they are testing another kind or looking in to.
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