The Youth.

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I'm looking for new everyday car and have seen one at auction I just want to see a ball park figure trade and retail

2009 09 mondeo 2.2 tdci titanium X sport hatchback 20 k miles options inc sat nav, sunroof, privacy glass.

thanks,
steve

cossiejay

I would just look on auto trader,gumtree and ebay to see what there going for

Piston Broke

Try this link mate its what i use in my garage http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/prices/

The Youth.

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Im going to be bidding against dealers and wanted an idea of what they would go to


thanks it gives me an idea of trade in which i presume is about there auction buy figure

steve

Piston Broke

every time i go to auction they sometimes sell for more than book price ! we have a saying of its worth what it does on the night !

rst deany

Cap clean 11k ,cap avg 10.5 k

Sounds a fortune

Danster76

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Is it EK09PVY in Belle vue on the 29th?

Cap clean says £11,850
Average £11,200

I think it's worth 12k retail and will probably make 11.4 plus fees! hardly worth it, just as well go get one for 12k with the wheels done, a warranty and more likely a 1 owner car!

Be interesting to hear what it makes if you go.

All the best

The Youth.

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well worked out!
have to say the buyers fees really put me off, but to be fair there is not many out there specially with that spec and mileage

steve

Danster76

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Go for it then. It does look a nice car and graded as a 2 its going to be clean.
Entered by UK car group so its a we buy any car car. Nothing wrong with that. (Guess you have all this info anyway!)

What are the private buyer fees on that amount? 5-600? Mega

The Youth.

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yea the fees are around 500 whch is a joke, a trader with the right card would pay around 100!!

wierd thing is some similar cars are for sale on ebay and the trader in garages for between 9.5 and 12 so will go and have a try

steve

The Youth.

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went to the auction today and the dam car went for a hammer price of £11900 so with me fees it would have cost me £12600!!!
Thats retail price!!

steve

Glenn_

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Bastard.Its always the same when you want something cheap.

Nick 172 Sport

after being in the auction trade for many years i used to see members off the public buying at bca for far more than they are worth joe public seem to think they get a bargain at auctions very far and between used to buymy motors from loot ebay autotrader etc and wuld always get a better deal

The Youth.

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I've been buying my everyday car from auctions for years but there seem to have been a step change in the prices, certainly bca don't want the privateer there!!

Steve

Rs(555)

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My dad is a buyer for a car supermarket !!
January is a mega busy month for them ,I speak to him most days .

He is struggling at moment to buy cars , because they are making so much in auctions !
He goes most days with an open cheque book !!!
Some days he comes back with 3 or 4 cars , sometimes 20 or so !

It's all the car supermarket buyers from over the county ,bidding against each other !!
Added in with other traders and joe public !!!

Not very cheap cars anymore !!!

He does get plenty cheap , but most need a little work !!

Nick 172 Sport

i used to get ones cheap but they always needed bodywork but i made most profit on them

Danster76

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It's not BCA not wanting private buyers there. They don't care who buys the cars and would sooner it was private buyers obviously! But I bet the guy who bought the car wasn't a private buyer and in my view owes him a couple of hundred over retail before marketing costs.
I would assume the buyers strategy for profit is to earn money selling the car on finance and winding a 3 year extended 5* warranty into the buyer for 5-600 quid. Madness but i guess they do what they have to as no doubt their overheads are still pumping away. Shit isn't it!?

I was a platinum card holder buying around 140 a year out of bca. I source elsewhere now and doubt I've bought 10 from them in the last 18 months!

The Youth.

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surely a trader buying 20 cars a week at 100 quid a pop buyers fee (thats a guess I don't know the real cost) is better than a privateer like me turning up trying to buy one every 3 years for 500 quid buyers fee

thats what I meant, the fact that me and the trader next door are not on a level playing field is what I meant, years ago we were when the fees were the same for all

steve

Danster76

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Gold card is 10-99 cars. Platinum card is 100-499 cars. Black card is 500+ (supermarket).

At platinum level the fees on that are near £200.

My point was, the car will sell whatever. The auction make their money on fees.
The 11,900 is for the vendor the fees are the auctions. They would sooner have had you buy it and pay 6-700 in fees that get say 200 off me. The trader will still buy his, to take your example, 20 cars a week, just not that one and that one paid out a 'bonus' for the auction. Does that make sense?

You're right, you and he are not on a level playing field regarding your invoice total. But the hammer price is the same, he just has loyalty discount on his fees. That's fair enough right?

Next time get chatting to a trader and ask them to put the car on his account with his fees you pay the invoice at the payment window and give him a £100 drink. You'd be 3-400 better off it happens and some build it into a revenue stream!