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Old 21-01-2013, 09:38 PM
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Default Warning to all garage users during cold snap !!!!

Was, like many out in the garage in the cold weather last few days.Had two heaters going which are 2k each which didn't dawn on me as warm and occupied with jobs on project trackshed...

Didn't leave garage while heaters were on luckily enough and with hindsight I should have known better.

Was running the heaters on an extension reel to get them as close to work bench as possible.didnt unreel it and this is what happened....!!!!




Cables melted through and wires exposed




Could have been dodgy if I'd nipped out or a cuppa....




Holy copper batman



Just to pre warn peeps...
Old 21-01-2013, 09:39 PM
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You gunna tape that back up and use it?
Old 21-01-2013, 09:42 PM
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Hmm close call. Least you got away and lesson learnt!
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Great heads up mate
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If i'm using anything with a decent current draw I always unreel the extension fully, was taught to do so by my Dad about 30yrs ago! Even my Henry hoover gets unwound completely before use, thought it was common knowledge tbh.
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Originally Posted by Eigdoog
You gunna tape that back up and use it?
Make a good pectal loom
Old 21-01-2013, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by S1
If i'm using anything with a decent current draw I always unreel the extension fully, was taught to do so by my Dad about 30yrs ago! Even my Henry hoover gets unwound completely before use, thought it was common knowledge tbh.

Knew about it but forgot as mind was on long list of jobs on car

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Old 21-01-2013, 09:47 PM
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never ever ever use extension cables when coiled up, ever!

even without heaters this is dangerous lads

i bought a 30m one today and refused to buy one without a thermal cutoff switch purely for this reason
this is what i bought, 12mnth warranty too
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...ermal-overload

you might wanna go put a lottery ticket on mate

**just seen the above post about unreeling......... i thaught it was common knowledge too

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Old 21-01-2013, 09:55 PM
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Tat that shit
Old 21-01-2013, 09:58 PM
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that was a lucky one rob,what are you doing with two heaters on anyway mate lol
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im surprised the fuse didn't go as 2x 2kw heaters are 16 ish amps. and the cable is on the limit at that, coiled or not.
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Originally Posted by H15 FSC
im surprised the fuse didn't go as 2x 2kw heaters are 16 ish amps. and the cable is on the limit at that, coiled or not.

Both on stats so would prib be cycling at different times
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Originally Posted by james kiely
that was a lucky one rob,what are you doing with two heaters on anyway mate lol
Fupping frezzing down here lad
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same here
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Looks like an efi conversion 'work in progress' shot to me!

Lucky you caught that
Old 21-01-2013, 10:14 PM
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as said, its not just heaters.
a customer of mine ran his washing machine on a coiled up extension lead and it melted the neutral in the socket of the lead.
and new belle cement mixers dont work properly if on a coiled up lead, unwind it and theyre fine.
Old 21-01-2013, 10:28 PM
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thermal cutoff is your friend if you forget to uncoil it.
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Originally Posted by S1
If i'm using anything with a decent current draw I always unreel the extension fully, was taught to do so by my Dad about 30yrs ago! Even my Henry hoover gets unwound completely before use, thought it was common knowledge tbh.
Likewise, i thought it was common knowledge, but if it isnt then good heads up!
Old 21-01-2013, 10:29 PM
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Leads should always be unwound when in use. From my old physics days i think it's something to do with eddy currents or induction as the windings act like a coil.

I now wait for the intelligent people to come and shoot me down and tell me i'm completely wrong but in my defence my school days are only a distant memory - hell i deserve a pat on the back for even remembering that i did physics.
Old 22-01-2013, 12:56 AM
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Purely down to heat dissipation. Fields cancel due to return path (neutral) being in v close proximity.
Old 22-01-2013, 04:24 AM
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It could of been a lot worse.
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it doesn't need to be common knowledge, it's written on a warning label on every extension coil sold. you just need to be able to read
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Most new extension cables come with two ratings usually 30amp fully extended and 5amp wound up lol
Old 22-01-2013, 09:07 AM
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naughty boy! but no harm done (apart from knackered extension lead)and lesson learnt! Each socket is rated up to a max of 13 amps or 3KW not 4KW neither will the flex in the real! especially when wound up !!!

If you run more than 3KW do not do it though 1 normal socket or lead! Garage fires are normally bad as they can involve:

you
your car
petrol
flammable gases
oxidizing agents (oxygen or NOS)
pressured cylinders.
all your tools

I always have a smoke detector in my garage and if using a fire a CO monitor too!
Old 22-01-2013, 11:06 AM
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Someone did this in the flightshed at Westlands where the Apachie is put together and repaired. Lets just say that was a very close call! Imagine the insurance claim on that one
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