Dirty Harry

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After being in the RS game for almost 15 years I for one have found that finding cars to break is getting harder due to the price increase even for very tatty ones,which will have a hugh knock on effect for secondhand parts,I am finding that the prices have got to go up due to the fact the cars are getting more expensive and harder to find

Westy

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wondered why your bits were so expensive just joking mate

Agreed, when these things become thin on the ground/rarer, prices will always reflect this...

Dirty Harry

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I have been thinking long and hrad about this and after just trying to buy two cars off e bay which are really scrap the prices that are being given is unreal,the problem i see is that that parts are going to go through the roof just like the old MK1 & 2 escort are at the moments

The Youth.

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Totally agree pete, whats is also a major problem for escort cos owners like myself is that ford are discontinuing loads of stuff now, and you hardly ever see es corts getting broke for spares.
EG front splitters and hockey sticks should be bought whilst stocks last then stored in the loft!

steve

Paul Eggleton

I'll replace mine with carbon ones, as I was quoted the same price for std ones from ford

Dirty Harry

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You see thw thing we breakers used to make our money on has now dropped like trims,bumpers light ect,these items are now worthless as there so much about and people are prepared to give it away it also dosent help with the back strret part time wanabee traders who are happy just to make a few quid for fags and beer.The parts which I thibnk have to go up is the running gear,engines,boxes,brakes,hubs ect.and believe me the price are going up they have to
you see i get people calling everyday as Iam a full timr dealer unlkie others I could mention.the custumer always call every were possable for the best price which is understandable i do the same.but yopu cvan gaurantee there back onnthe phone within the day as the part they wont is unobtainable any were else

R4N SS

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not being funny but of course the cars are getting harder to find as more and more are being broken - its a case of supply and demand IMO.

SPADGE

People are now breaking their own cars instead of selling them cheap to dealers/breakers! Can't blame them for that. This is why cars for breaking are thin on the ground and the ones that do appear go for strong money!

St3V3_C

Are you sure?

Recently I have been amazed at how cheap ordinary people are picking these cars up for - Ł2k for a 2wd saph? (bottom end of the scale I know) Not long ago, that would have been 3.5 - 4k. Even the price of Escorts was falling (IIRC) according to the RSOC, who would probably do all they can to keep the prices up. If it wasn't actually showing a Ł decrease it was the same, which in real terms, is a decrease. (I can't remember)

Ginge !

soooo true, the odd things like hubs alot of people now have and lob in the bin due to soo many cars being broke

cossie 4pot calipers aint fetching 150 quid anymore either, got a mate who was trying to sell his and aint even been offered 100 quid for em now

look as the price of cossie rear spoliers too

ok engines may be selling but only cause there aint many decent ones for sale, theres alot of shitty engines about for sale though

SPADGE

Seeing the odd car around 2k and buying one for that are 2 very different things! These 2k cars are either so fooked that even a breaker couldn't do anything with it or if not there will be a dozen people after it so its the early bird syndrome!
There have been cheap saffs about for years now up to and around 3k but the good ones have gone up and the shitters are scarse!

Ginge !

yeah i agree with spadge too, all my mates aint selling there cossies but breaking em as they can get 7k+ for em in bits

notice nobody seems to break there erst though, theres loads of them engines about , i got 2 at the moment and god knows how many spares

Dirty Harry

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sorry you so wrong,brakes and hubs are on the up as there no longer available anymore

Dirty Harry

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you are so right,bang on with that statement

Ginge !

pete ive just bought a set of calipers just over a year old for 30 quid with disks too

i think that maybe people are discovering that why spend loads on second hand parts when they can break the car and get enough to buy a newer car

my mate broke his as he fooked the engine and will get over 7k for it , if he was to sell it complete he would get 5500 for it working

7k can buy a nice car newer jap car now

SPADGE

Ginge you talk some shit some times
Show me this cossie with a fooked engine your mate is going to break for 7k What is it a 500?

Ginge !

spadge ya know him already
he dont wanna be mentioned but ya do know him and it aint hard to work out !!!

was on greys, t34 ect, worth about 5500 but hes sold alot of it and not got past the doors yet

CossieRich

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In answer to the post title: Sky high imo

Mr RS500

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This is sssooooo true ..
Last year there were loads of cossies for 2k or less and it was a case of first there got it ,,Now they just arnt there , or as spadge says if your up a 4am and find it first your very lucky .
I look everywhere day in day out for cossies Good and bad but am finding it very hard to get them at a decent price , I am paying over the odds for them now so the part prices will have to go up to cover the extra i am paying .
As Pete says its ok for the part timers who dont do this full time and have to pay there bills with any proffit they make , and give Tony fooking his bit aswell
Sorry to say Parts will start to rise soon

Dirty Harry

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b19bal
as spadge said your talking shit,you got a bragain at Ł30 mate but that dont mean thats what there worth I have paid Ł500 for a cossie taxed and tested before but it dosnet mean there all with that does it.you have to remeber I do this for a living like you do what ever your job is your boss is anking maony out of you.as to the price thing I can get mu wifle to make me a chesse sarny for about 20p but it will caost me Ł1 at the cob shop,think about it

Dirty Harry

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Sorry but theres going to be a price increase soon,I can see it coming in the not too distant future,even more noe the foreign buyers are on standby to come over and talk what ever we have in stock
I have not really recovered stock wise since Xmas stacks of cash but no stock

Ginge !

pete i was saying as a example, the brakes i would say are worth 100 quid, i got em for a good deal as the guy didnt care about em

as for 7k for a cossie, its deffo possable but not a standard cossie, mine would brake for 4 to 5k, if it comes mot time and theres a major issue and i decide i dont wanna rebuild me engine mine will be broken to recoupe my money ive payed

hell i was offered 900 for my wheels when i first got my car

think its just what people wanna pay, i remember the cossie managment conversions when people was doing em ages ago, the parts where cheeper then, now the parts from breakers are a total pagage and work out as 800 quid

thats just the cossie parts too, also depends on how ya use too, when i had my erst the cheepest breakers about where just affords in cannok, they always had the parts and where soooo fooking cheep there was also notingham rs spares too but think you taken over his customers when he left

pete have ya thought about the jap car market ?, the RS autos guy gave up in ford years ago and went into jap, maybe thats the place to go for now ???

Mr RS500

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Thats the other thing ,,The Foreign buyers are willing to take everthing we have and pay top money for it ,,I sold last month thousands of pounds worth of stuff to some blokes from Malta who come over pay the money and go home with it ,, they dont haggle or moan , the just pay and are happy , this will effect the supply in this country this year .

Ginge !

think also as cossies are coming down in price theres alot more diy going on so when they fook it up they can sell the parts on quick due to ebay the car forums then theres no need to sell to breakers too now, where beforewe all knew the local people, now we can sell to anyone via the internet too

Ginge !

what the fook is it with malta and ford parts, i really dont get that, soo many people i know are selling things in malta

my missus is from malta and i really aint seen a cossie or erst there ever

where are they going !!!!!!!

Dirty Harry

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sory the jap stuff aint for me as i havnt an interest in those cars,the RS market is hugh and wilkl be for a very long time,all Iam saying is expect a price incease,this is better for anyone who owns a an RS as it means there car is worth more,thats how it should be

darren.cudd

another problem is that you tend to find any cossie bit you want on ebay. im breaking a couple of 4x4's at the moment on there part time to make some cash if someone offers me a cheap crashed cossie that i can make some cash on im hardley going to say no am i

Mr RS500

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b19bal
These breakers you mention ,,,,,,,,Where are they now ,,All gone jap or bankrupt because they were selling so cheap

Dirty Harry

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tahts the whole point ,there not coming down in price ,as to malta I deal with 3 teams of buyers from over there and i cant keep up with there demands,and iam at it all day

Ginge !

paul thats what i was getting at, there gone but there was alot then, i remember when i looked in fastford 1 month to buy a head and there was no breakers except for pete and i think notts rs spares number was directed to pete too, dont quote me on that but i ended up buy the head off pete

maybe its a good thing that for traders theres less breakers but i still think ebay , car fourums ect is the reason for it

also tuners are looking into new ideas now too

Dirty Harry

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exactly too much overheads,undercutting prices hence gone bang,lets see
Nott RS Centre,Noth London,Rodger Sport(the new owner),Sall Motorsport,Ralle Spares,to name a few all gone,WHY ??

Cowboi

prices are going up, but all prices for eveything is going up.
Good thing is that spares are normally avaliable for fords. It dont make much looking for most bits your after.
Some pepole on e bay are after crazy money for things that can anly be called skips. but on the other hand some class motors go on there dirt cheap. all depends on whos after what at the time and how deep thier pockets are.
Everyone has an amazing bargain they can talk about. I got red dot discs brand new for 11 quid. But every 1 also has been laughed at for paying well over the price they should have.
swings and roundabouts m8.

Ginge !

where are the fookign cossies in malta, that part i really dont get, a mate of mine sold a erst set of openinf rear quarters for 160 quid and sent em to malta, theres lots of other stuff like fuel pumps ect that they pay silly money for


theres no RS's in malta that i can see

Mr RS500

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Thing is with e/bay tho is people will sell any old shit on there and what can you do about it ,,fook all
I bought a rs500 splitter on there a few weeks back that was scrap ,,I gave the bloke bad feedback and now he has an advert for a rs 500 he is selling and he is slagging me off in the advert for giving him bad feedback

People will stop trusting e/bay soon as more and more people get ripped off by it .FACT , you here about it every day , e/bay is a passing trend ( unless they sort some insurence system on there )

Ginge !

i payed 10 quid for mine , erst's are better that vauxhall

what about the gerneral class of the car owners too, maybe the cossie peeps aint the young chavs they all used to be when back in 96 to 99 cossies could be bought for 3k as insurance was soo high on em, remember a mate of mine swopping his cossie for a cabrio due to insurance

could be that the owners of cossies now dont mind spending on newer parts if they can, i know im only gonna use new parts on my cossie unless the second hand parts are dirt cheep to take the risk

but then as im a bit older i dont spunk all my money like i used to and the cossie is all i spunk my money on now



btw this is a interesting debate

Mr RS500

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It is a good debate ,, Bottom line is tho we all do agree that Rs parts will get harder to find and will go up up up in value very soon ,,






Please sell me all your cossies for 1k CASH no messing ,,lol

Ginge !

must admit i wont pay silly money on ebay unless im collecting things

i got stung once on ebay for a 5.32 modem, second time i used it , had to get me and 2 mates to drive to surrey to collect his pc for a modem

had another guy try and screw me over for a set of brake calipers for a erst that cost 5 quid, he cashed the cheque and said he didnt wanna sell em that cheep

i had his number and gave it the full brave heart phone warrior over the phone and got me brakes 2 days later

since then i tend to be more cautious, but i did buy my tennis cabrio on there for 600 quid, bought it to swop the half leathers and sell back on, car was sooooo fooking mint, FSH, just needed a engine i kept it , still got the fooker in me garage but i will have it running when i can be arsed

frog

Besides eBay and other means of selling, I think the internet forums such as this one have a lot to answer for with regards to car prices. For example, just before I joined, my car packed up (cambelt broke), had I not been on PF, I probably would have given in and sold the car to a breaker because I didn't think the car was worth anything without a working engine.

However, talking to people all day on here, you soon realise that there are other options, such as breaking yourself, or, if you pass it onto a breaker, you kinda expect close to what you could get DIY, so prices go up as a result.

There are loads of people out there who have an RS (or other rare-ish ford) who don't go on the internet and don't necessarily have the same view of the world, those I reckon will sell for less, unless they are active club members.

My biggest worry isn't so much price, it's availability, for example, sourcing a good 2wd head that's not been skimmed to death, that's not gone soft, etc... is a nightmare, you always worry about buying a 17yr old second hand part, etc...

So had to buy new in the end, and I was very tempted to buy a job lot for a rainy day, or to sell on at a small profit - just don't have the cash to hand.

Keep up the good work guys, I haven't bought anything off you yet (bound to at some point with 2 cossies though ), but you help keep the good'uns on the road