Maxwell

SIXTY ONE FUCKING GRAND, for a Cosworth YB engine.....how much engine lube was being licked, whilst building it ffs!!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COSWORTH-Y...item3f051a0f65

the_frozen_one

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It's a genuine JG rally cross engine, I don't see the biggy?

CrOwSoN15

Likewise!

thebronze

That's fucking stupid money... seller needs to either give His head a shake or recieve a quick a thorogh kick to the ballz

Maxwell

Ohh fuck sorry, that makes it "in the money" then...

andy escos

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im sure that engine used to be for sale at £55,000 a few months back .

the_frozen_one

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You misunderstand what the engine is, it's not a yeehaw cowboy rebuild with +0.25s here there and everywhere.

You also clearly don't realise the money/time/labour that goes into a proper competition motor.

If there is more than £5k profit in that engine I'd be surprised, sounds a lot but its less than a 10% margin. Ford make about 50% on replacement engines, sometimes more.

I mean no offence btw. 61k for a rebuilt YB for a saph yeah it's cuckoo but 61k for that, off the shelf, ready to go, ain't too bad

Maxwell

For an engine at that cash.....i would be expecting a W16 from a Veyron ffs!!

That particular engine (no matter how all singing or all dancing it is), is nearly 2 and a half times the price, of what a sierra sapphire cosworth was when they where brand new!!

Beetlejuice

Try looking at a parts list for one of the Olsberg MSE Duratec turbo rallycross engines!

Rod-Tarry

The girdle + drysump is 8k those throttle bodies 5k. My inconel twin scroll manifold was 3.5k that one a lot lot more. Thats just tack on bits its an expensive game.

Jay,

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Julian sells 20-30 of these a year it's quite well known fact through the race industry if you want to be competitive andwinthrnyou use his engines

Jay,

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And let's not forget the years of development

steviecossie

Just because you wouldn't pay this price for an engine doesn't mean it's not worth price the seller is asking.

And somehow I don't think you would get a veyron engine for 60k either

Maxwell

LOL at the price being justified!!!

Any more takers??? I'm intrigued....

Jay,

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Lol the price was justified when people pay it on regular basis , just because a uneducated person thinks its to much doesn't make it any less intriguing fact is they sell at that money I can't see why you have a issue with it do you want one but your a fiver short ?

Rsmat

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Price up to make and buy the thing new... And that's where a expensive price tags come from.

Maxwell

Maybe some people simply have too much money? Buy why advertise it on ebay? Must not be a "regular" buy in that case...

So am i being classed as a retard??

yes that is exactly what it is Jay...fancy lending me a fiver?

Jay,

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To much money not people pay to get results mate , No not a retard but uneducated in how much is involved in a proper race engine and I know he sells plenty of builds what is ur PayPal addy

Roscco

I saw the words Julian Godfrey and just thought aaahhhhh, that explains A LOT.
AFAIK he's the guy to go to if you want a competition engine to win with, maybe only 520bhp, but look at the torque !!

Maxwell

To be honest, i might spend the £60,995 i have into learning how proper race engines are built.

In the mean time, i await some more comedy post's!! And thank you guy's...my wednesday night has finished off nicely

v man

At the end of the day these guys and girls who compete in rally cross do so to win and if that means they go to mr Godfrey and have one of his builds then that's what they have to do

And as said I bet most of that bill is for parts alone and machine work.

v man

Plus to add a Godfrey engine will do multiple races with out issue so that's where the money also goes

Bet a cheaper engine competing in the same races will need a few rebuilds so could end up costing more

Jay,

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The average super car in rallycross is £250,000 the engine bill isn't that bad lol

the_frozen_one

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Was going to elaborate on things such as that if required, couldn't be bothered with an essay, am posting from a phone.

Ford would dearly love for the engines I work on everyday to only cost £61k!

It's Czech Mate

Lol at uneducated folk laughing at the price. There's a lot of work, parts and a lifetime of R&d in that engine. He sells 20-30 a year so despite what the op thinks it IS worth that price because they do sell.

MAD Ade

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These engines are not for the likes of us, this is a full blooded super car rally cross engine.This money is small fry for the top rally cross teams. I remember Martin Schanche getting through 3 engines on one particular weekend event, they discovered it was a management problem in the end causing the engine to run lean - dear hobby!

whizzisat114

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I bet all the sponsor ship money buys a lot of parts aswell

Danster76

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I would hate the PayPal fees tbh

1.9 xr2 on 40's

there are far better ways to get 550 bhp
an LS for instance and it wont cost 60k

CrOwSoN15

And LS1 won't get anywhere near the amount of torque this is kicking out!

Maxwell

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

MAD Ade

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Mmmmmm..........

Eigdoog

Been a good thread lol, I am also sure this was 55k.

If i have a win on the lotto ill put one in a kit car and tell you all about it.

Dirty Harry

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give Danny and Luke a couple of 3 grans they can match that power

MAD Ade

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Mate, you wouldn't want this engine in anything you're likely to use on the road. I had to drive Julian Godfrey's double championship winning Fiesta with this engine in it a number of times when I worked at Spec-R last year, and is an absolute pig - won't move without stalling below around 6000 rpm

alexno1dj

lot of cash when there was a Ferrari 612 engine for 35k and i think 520 reliable bhp.

dojj

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you can buy a w12 engined phaeton for £6k so buy 2 and then weld them together to get an even better engine than the veyron and much cheaper to boot

or you could put one in the front and one in the back and it owuld be twice as good as anything else

Glenn_

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Wow what a price tag that is.

gordyshreds

920 NM Torque! Can see how it costs that much, is hardly "just a YB" !

ajamesc

well as the engine in question is a proper race engine lol maybe you could ask Julian to teach you! And I dare say with all the money it must cost as a hole to enter rally cross at that level for a year that 60 grand for an engine that will last and give you a good chance of winning is probably peanuts!