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Old 08-03-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Running greys with standard engine?

it is a good idea or not. With a good condition engine, 500 i/c and t34/0.63 turbo?
Old 08-03-2005, 04:57 PM
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That is exactly what i am running

Just got a WRC headgasket holding it all together and it is awesome
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What sort of boost is it running?
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Spikes 30psi and holds 28psi to the limiter
Old 08-03-2005, 04:59 PM
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without the gasket, just keep the boost down a bit
Old 08-03-2005, 05:00 PM
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m8 got the same and is running 30psi and been running like that for about 1 yr so far
Old 08-03-2005, 05:01 PM
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yes it would have the right gasket, could you expect to get near 400bhp?
Old 08-03-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by B11GNS
yes it would have the right gasket, could you expect to get near 400bhp?
no reason y 400bhp isn't possible with the other correct components
Old 08-03-2005, 05:03 PM
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Mine is a good 360-370 BHP

You wont get the 400 figure without Headwork tbh

Mine is going on Thor Racing Dyno-Pak soon for a run so will let you know what it is. But at the end of the day on the road it is fucking superb

(will do the clock in no time at all )
Old 08-03-2005, 05:07 PM
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Maybe with cams, a bit of porting/polishing, 400 could be possible? Still with standard bottom end
Old 08-03-2005, 05:08 PM
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Yes Steve, it will be possible mate
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Also Tiff, do you notice a big difference over the stage 3?
Old 08-03-2005, 05:12 PM
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Both our track cars are "standard" engines with greys peaking at 33 and holding 30psi
Compared to stage 3 they are STUNNING, 60-90 mph is unbelievable
Old 08-03-2005, 05:14 PM
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when i have a 3dr, this'll be what i want to run
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Interesting, cheers peeps Food for thought
Old 08-03-2005, 05:18 PM
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not selling the old girl then?
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I'm probably going to go this route in the Mk1 Escort if/when it gets finished. Seems the best idea to me for a nippy fast road/track car
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Originally Posted by B11GNS
Interesting, cheers peeps Food for thought
it WILL be like driving a whole NEW car again

my saf's getting done in the NOT to distant future
Old 08-03-2005, 05:22 PM
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oh gooddy cant wait for my t4 now
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is this on a 205 block or a 200. I have a set of greens and a t34 .63 to go on but am now considering the greys, will it need live mapping or can someone do an off the shelf chip for greys. O and what else is needed anthing or nothing??????
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Originally Posted by cossy abuser
not selling the old girl then?
I'm still selling i'm just thinking of alternatives if i dont end up getting what i really want (black rs500) as there isn't many about. If i dont get that then i will get a black 3dr, as i've always wanted black and am bored of white (had it for 6 years now )
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
is this on a 205 block or a 200. I have a set of greens and a t34 .63 to go on but am now considering the greys, will it need live mapping or can someone do an off the shelf chip for greys. O and what else is needed anthing or nothing??????
i would imagine it would need mapping, if not i would still get it done anyway
Old 08-03-2005, 05:45 PM
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i might stick with the greens then there are a few 20v turbo mk2 golfs round my way that need seeing off i think the adition of a t34 and greens should see them off
Old 08-03-2005, 05:53 PM
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Alps

Mine is still on a 205 block
Old 08-03-2005, 05:56 PM
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TIFF-C20WTH, did you get ti live mapped or did norrismotorsport do you an off the shelf chip. I am just working out how much extra it will cost for greys over a stage3 setup on greens
Old 08-03-2005, 05:59 PM
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Mine is going straight to Karl for this conversion, as soon as it runs, as I've heard nothing but good things about it.
Old 08-03-2005, 06:00 PM
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alps colins are the only company i know that do off the shelf chips, its not recemended though tbh as the fueling on greys and the CO level is usually very high on idle
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I had it Mapped by Karl

Not many places will do an "Off the shelf" Chip for a grey injector car

But have a word with him and see what he will charge you for the Greys set-up, it is WELL worth it
Old 08-03-2005, 06:10 PM
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tiff collins performance are the only ones i know but ya still gotta have it set up too, so when ya think of the 150 quid price, then set up for it, maybe the mony for a live map is better as ya will save money on fuel too
Old 08-03-2005, 06:20 PM
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mine is the same as tiffs except its a 200 block and low compression.
NMS chip running same boost. (except he has a `special not for public use` )

mid range acceleration is great
Old 08-03-2005, 06:22 PM
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i am thinking of going this route too and the head is suposed to have had some work done previously. just a bit worried as my engine has done 70k.
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Seems like a good conversion, and prob what i would have done if engine didnt need rebuild lol so went for the full gabodale while had new one built. And if its close to 400bhp then its way better than stage 3
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don't forget to change your fuel pump as a std one will be topping out at 380 -390hp

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why dont you buy my 400 bhp coversion on light blues already mapped on dyno on very nearly stanard comp ratio. mapped by ahmed on scs dyno
Old 08-03-2005, 08:59 PM
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don't forget to change your fuel pump as a std one will be topping out at 380 -390hp
i dont think that is right a standard pump in good condition will flow about 3.9 litres a minute and grey injectors will only flow about 2 litres a minute so why do you need a bigger pump??
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ive heard that the std pump is good for about 450bhp, true???
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i'm on greys and std comp

mine's really slow


tho i'm only running 0.5 bar boost
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Originally Posted by the strut brace
ive heard that the std pump is good for about 450bhp, true???
i doubt that very much

i run 2 (only 1 used at a time) 044 grp a pumps
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Originally Posted by the strut brace
ive heard that the std pump is good for about 450bhp, true???
i doubt that very much

i run 2 (only 1 used at a time) 044 grp a pumps
yeah but isn't the stansard sierra pump supposed to be a lot better then the escort one?


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