Escort one runs in the tank doesn't it so you need to upgrade even if going to 330BHP I have heard

 

it is yeah, is fine in most applications when running greens, but not greys

 

so if your correct.you could run 750cc injectors flat out on a std 2wd pump

i don't think so

a cossie pump will probably move that amount of fluid off of the car(if its new and you get the amps to it), however, you have a fuel filter, frictional loses down the lines etc all to reduce its volumetric efficiancy

your car, your engine, your risk......for a couple of hundred quid, i would rather know my engine is getting all the fuel she wants


Pugo

 

Flow data for Std pump:

PRESSURE (BAR) / FLOW (LTR/MIN) / AMPS
1 / 3.3 / 4.6
2 / 3.2 / 5.1
3 / 3 / 5.8
4 / 2.8 / 6.5
5 / 2.6 / 7
6 / 2.4 / 8
7 / 2.2 / 8.5
8 / 2 / 9.8
9.5 / 0 /11

 

Same for the 044:
PRESSURE (BAR) / FLOW (LTR/MIN) / AMPS

1 / 4.8 / 10.5
2 / 4.6 / 10.8
3 / 4.4 / 11.2
4 / 4.2 / 11.5
5 / 3.75 / 12.5
6 / 3.5 / 13.5
7 / 3.25 / 14
8 / 3 / 16
11.2 / 0 / 18

Could do serious BHP with a nasp motor

 

so stu for the not so educated, does that mean ya need a group A or not for greys

 

For that kind of conversion i woiuld also uprate the wiring to the fuel pump.As why spend all that money and let over 10 yr old wiring ruin it.

 

@stu. I have wanted those figures for ages

also FAO STU@MSD..........what pressure would you expect to see at the rail @6500rpm on greys@80%???????????????

in a nut shell...........YES


Pugo

 

what about for blues as thats what i got and i think it is a std pump - car is 400bhp

 

Pressure?
Depends on teh boost obviously

Add boost to fuel pressure static and theres your answer.

 

but do you need a group a pump with 400bhp or not......

 

400bhp needs blue or greys


i would say YES you do

 

Like that's a lot

 

to sum it up, the escorts pump needs uprating without question at about 330bhp,

at what point does the saffy pump need uprating??? will i be alright , there seems to be some cofusion between wether or not 400bhp is achievable with a saffy pump

 

The Strut Brace...the 2wd pump is not suitable for the turbo you will be using....it needs changing from 350bhp (you can get around 385bhp but its not a good idea unless its brand new) to the 044.

 

One of our track cars at 380ish BHP is on a standard fuel pump, the other one is on a 044 I think

 

ok so the fuelling and the boost is not a problem, a good live map setup and away u go, what about the poor clutch and gearbox

 

live map
I'm running off the shelf chips

 

Is the standart saphir pump a 909 bosch pump???

 

is the 2wd pump the same as a 4wd pump? i'm talkin about saffs by the way, if not what is a 4wd saff rated to?

 

The 4x4 uses the same pump.

 

why run a std pump to its limit,
better to get a new 044 and know you have a safety margin, imo

 

never underestimate the stupidity of some people though stretch

new 044 pump with new wiring too imo

 

okey dokey